He all!

I have a small question that'll most likely seem a little, stupid to everyone, but I'm learning as much as possible about everything as possible so I can do everything I want to do with Zelda.

Anyway, after that little introduction, I am curious as to whether or not CSP Shifters and all other shifters that you can buy that are third party accessories, do they go from a H pattern to a straight pattern, or do they stay with the stock H pattern?

I ask this because I'm curious as to whether if they go to a straight pattern, does it where out the syncros on the gearbox or not?

I just want to know before I make a purchase, that is all.

Thanks,
Seb!

They are H pattern

I have the CSP and it is a good bit of gear

Thanks Bizarre!

What CSP one did you grab?
I'm currently looking at the Scat ones as well, but would prefer to get a CSP shifter, as Scat only do straight handles and CSP have the normal(?) looking ball.

Hi Seb,

The shift pattern is determined by the gearbox, not by the gear shift, so any after market gearshift remains H pattern. The thing with the after market gearshifts is that most of them have a shorter throw, which means you can change gears more quickly, which some might say is fairly pointless on a stockish Beetle, but it does mean you lose less momentum when climbing hills

I have a CSP T bar handle and it's very nice, and has a 60% shorter throw. It was expensive, and if your money is limited you would spend it more constructively on other things.

Bear in mind you can also buy 'quick shift' kits that will give you the shorter throw for not very much money at all, and retains your current gearshift. Not as sexy, but effective and much more economical.

Cheers
Craig

^^^ what he said, i lived with the $10 short shifter spacer for awhile in mine, at a minimum i wouldnt drive one without it now, but ive since experienced a few others- csp berg & bugtech, all of them are $300-400ish but are insanely strong, nice feeling, oh and looking good helps a little too

some say a 60% reduction will crush synchros and my bugtech is a 62% -its mentally short in the H

40% in the bergs seemed perfect for everyday use, quite comfortable, only thing i can say for sure is unless your really short get a bent one. i need to bend the bugtechs shaft to make it more comfortable for my seating position

Hi

I modified my shift rod and fitted a bent Type 3 shifter with a quick shift, cheap as chips and works great.

I also put a light spring on the shift coupling that pulls the shifter to 3/4 side of the neutral gate.

Steve

I used to have a short shift kit with berg shifter (which I wish I still had) in my 69 and the throws were about a quarter of an inch. My mechanic said it was the tightest gearbox he'd ever driven.

I have a Berg one..........and yes its worth the $

Thanks everyone for the pointers, I'll be grabbing a quick shift kit as soon as possible!



Maybe later I'll upgrade to a Berg one, maybe one day...

They just look so pretty!

But they come with a hefty price tag, maybe by the end of the year I'll have one in Zelda

This was my CSP (60% reduction) with 2.5in extension. Loved the reverse lockout, got tired of realigning the shift plate after anyone else drove it.

....so I've gone back to stock with "$10 quick shift kit"

bus914,

What does the reverse lockout plate do? Is it something that is solely for drag cars, thus the lack of reverse?
I can't do this as I have to reverse out of my driveway daily, but I am definitely finding it more and more difficult to put the car in reverse.
This I would assume would mean I would need a new shift plate as well as a quick shift kit.

Can't believe it is so cheap from Vollks

Ah I see, I'm somewhat thinking if I replace the gearstick with a Berg or something of the sort, they all have the lever that you pull up to go into reverse.

I'll have to take it out and have a look at some point and see what is going on with it, but it just keeps getting more and more difficult.
I'm thinking I just get a new gearstick and this will solve all my issues

Adjust the clutch
Check rear coupling
Check shifter
Replace front bush
See if it's better after each step

and change the bush in the tunnel & the one on the nose cone while your at it

shift issues will come from those being non existant, and the plate under your shifter not being in 100% the right spot, notice the slotted holes the bolts go through? those are there for a reason, loosen, push the base one way, left/right/forwards/back tighten, test for all gears, continue till happy

cant get 1st? move forwards/left
cant get 2nd/reverse? move rear/left
cant get 3rd? forward/right
4th? rear/right

happy medium between the two, and also between the plate under the shifter base and shifter base itself. good luck - it can be frustrating!

Looks like I have some more things to do today other than my little surprise!

also what hellbugged said

im pausing for breakfast while working on my own car too mr hellbugged before you say anything!

Ahaha my laptop is in the car with me while I see where all these damn wires have to go and measure the rear luggage compartment!