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reversed coolant manifold
farquire - May 31st, 2014 at 05:53 PM

anyone in australia doing a reversed coolant manifold for a suby


farquire - June 8th, 2014 at 08:12 AM

anyone had any experience with not reversing the manifold ,small car have a kit for this but wondering why everyone seems so keen to reverse the manifold,also who to go to for the harness mod its going into a 90 syncro ,have a 2003 liberty 2.5 and pulled the harness out yesterday,sooo much wire


Camo - June 8th, 2014 at 10:00 AM

Hi there,

I can't help you, but have a look over this (long) post. I think from memory there is something in it about reversing the manifold.

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=67295&page=1

Kev


mackaymanx - June 8th, 2014 at 10:15 AM

I had my manifolds done locally, I did all the prep work and dropped them off to be welded. I'm putting an EJ 25 in my syncro and using the smallcar coolant pipe which used the standard coolant manifold.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-O9mu5M5uXkY/UsJcb1P08bI/AAAAAAAAAJo/aIV3Yk4zgKU/s800/P1050600.JPG


Lovebuggy - June 8th, 2014 at 01:53 PM

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who to go to for the harness mod its going into a 90 syncro ,have a 2003 liberty 2.5 and pulled the harness out yesterday,sooo much wire



AMAuto is your place - on the sunshine coast.

http://www.amauto.com.au

Send them your loom and they will strip it out and send it back.


MickH - June 8th, 2014 at 04:02 PM

I run my T3 Caravelle with a standard coolant manifold (not reversed) and an EJ22..


farquire - June 9th, 2014 at 08:46 AM

so reversing the manifold really only makes the plumbing more direct or neater ,the stainless pipes from small car must run around the top of the engine and back down the side, anyone got a picture of this,also re the harness there's a guy on ebay doing harness's, luke from bayside motor garage moorabbin anybody used him or know his work


mackaymanx - June 9th, 2014 at 10:02 AM

This is not the best photo but these pipes are usually fitted to the turbo and H6 conversions.

http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/1177350.jpg


nils - June 9th, 2014 at 10:15 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by farquire
so reversing the manifold really only makes the plumbing more direct or neater ,the stainless pipes from small car must run around the top of the engine and back down the side, anyone got a picture of this,also re the harness there's a guy on ebay doing harness's, luke from bayside motor garage moorabbin anybody used him or know his work


If it's the add I am thinking of, the picture is actually of my harness :D
. Go figure

Shame you are not looking for a EJ22 harness, I'm thinking of trading mine for an unmolested one and starting again.


farquire - June 9th, 2014 at 10:25 AM

i'll take that as a negetive thanks ,pipes look pretty neat may go that way
mike


mackaymanx - June 9th, 2014 at 11:48 AM

Here are some quick shots in my engine bay, the brackets on the pipe don't really line up very well. Holes will need to be drilled and brackets bent/adjusted.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-PN9KZSZEUSg/U5URW54x5oI/AAAAAAAAAP4/czP9jv6ubkA/s800/P1050679.JPG
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-L06zkSk5KMg/U5URYKbPxsI/AAAAAAAAAQA/JLf19k5zu0Y/s800/P1050680.JPG


farquire - June 9th, 2014 at 02:57 PM

thanks, pipes look like they'll do the job and be neat,motor i've bought is out of a auto,so i'm after a flywheel,was given a old wrx flywheel with the engine ,don't know what year ,is this useable if not what is, using smallcar bellhousing.


mackaymanx - June 9th, 2014 at 04:15 PM

Think you will need a NA flywheel, the turbo flywheels have a different height.


farquire - June 10th, 2014 at 01:21 PM

the one i have is 25 mm thick overall dia 315 mm machined face/ pressure plate face outside dia 290 mm by inside dia 145 mm recess looks about 12 mm any chance of checking the sizes against yours


mackaymanx - June 10th, 2014 at 04:52 PM

Ring gear is in the same position relative to the mounting flange of the flywheel.

NA is on the left, turbo on the right.

Given that the SmallCar conversion has trouble with the over extension of the clutch slave cylinder, using a flywheel which make this worse is not ideal.


farquire - June 10th, 2014 at 06:38 PM

looking at those i'd say mine is a turbo thanks for your help


silverbullet - June 15th, 2014 at 05:49 PM

I have done mine myself. just had to strip everything of the engine and cut and shut the pipe and get it tig welded back together seem to work well. only cut around 1 1/2 inches out of the middle of manifold between last outlet and the end. and blocked the other end up where the 1/2 inch pipe comes out.


farquire - September 2nd, 2014 at 09:37 PM

been awhile but have now fitted a 2003 2.5 using smallcar components and a non reversed manifold,up to the stage of running fuel lines and fitting the harness ,the subi motor has three lines, fuel in, fuel return and an evaporative line,wondering where the evap line goes,had my harness done by am auto and wondering which parts of the immobilizer i need to keep,also what coolant to put in always used the blue g11 in the vw motor


vlad01 - September 2nd, 2014 at 10:13 PM

has a purge solenoid yeah? you will need a charcoal canister if thats the case.


farquire - September 3rd, 2014 at 07:04 AM

have the original t3 cannister so the evap line just plumbs into that ?


vlad01 - September 3rd, 2014 at 11:30 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by farquire
have the original t3 cannister so the evap line just plumbs into that ?


depends on the canister. being old I seen more have a purge valve operated by a vac port on the TB just past idle.

Probably need a canister from a car that uses a solenoid.

basically they have 3 ports.

Evap/vapor= from the fuel tank vapor line

Air= just to atmosphere or better in to the air cleaner box to prevent dust ingestion.

Purge= to solenoid operated by the ECU. this is condensed liquid fuel.


mackaymanx - April 4th, 2015 at 04:22 PM

Here is a new product from SmallCar that I'm trying out, cast reversed coolant manifold.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-aTBDCLKXrL8/VR-BO01P88I/AAAAAAAAAaY/IObMLp8Pafg/s800/IMG_20150404_145249.jpg


Bleed off fittings to thermostat
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-aneU3yyuA8s/VR-BPXGAbOI/AAAAAAAAAag/MfU37fM-_HE/s800/IMG_20150404_145301.jpg


Sensors
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-zhfUTdNOyao/VR-BPr4ILjI/AAAAAAAAAac/CafET6Nq73w/s800/IMG_20150404_145311.jpg


Piping to header tank, T piece has reducer built in.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-bPMJ_rpFsSw/VR-BQgqzdkI/AAAAAAAAAao/xsEYOzT_Dw0/s800/IMG_20150404_145355.jpg


nils - April 4th, 2015 at 04:34 PM

Nice,, I'm interested to see how that shapes. Up


mackaymanx - April 6th, 2015 at 04:28 PM

Cleaned up the manifold a little today and gave it a pressure test. Started at 10 psi and finished with a max of 25 psi, no leaks.