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sgetty - October 30th, 2003 at 07:12 AM

howdy
just wondering, who and where are doing all these custom crossmembers to fit your suby,holden and whatever engines?:thumb

Jenny - October 31st, 2003 at 06:43 AM

Depends on what you're fitting it to. The Subaru EJ20 conversion into the Beetle doesn't require any crossmember. You just use an adaptor plate and new flywheel. The Subaru motor hangs off the transaxle the same way the VW motor did.

kombi_kid - October 31st, 2003 at 06:58 AM

mine is made out of 2" pipe to fit my holden motor!and it is just adapted to fit the VW style engine mounts
cheers
rhys

11CAB - October 31st, 2003 at 05:39 PM

I'm guessing most people doing these conversions are pretty handy and would make them themselves.

busman - October 31st, 2003 at 09:59 PM

Volkscare in Adelaide make them for the Subaru -> T3 Caravelle/Syncro.
Very nice crossmember too !

Call Bob on 08 83691233 BH for info and pricing

Black_math - November 1st, 2003 at 01:47 PM

Crossmember?

kombi_kid - November 1st, 2003 at 02:48 PM

or rear engine mount just a support to hold the engine in!
peace
rhys

Brad - November 1st, 2003 at 08:15 PM

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Originally posted by Jenny
Depends on what you're fitting it to. The Subaru EJ20 conversion into the Beetle doesn't require any crossmember. You just use an adaptor plate and new flywheel. The Subaru motor hangs off the transaxle the same way the VW motor did.

I wouln't recommend running a subaru engine without a cross brace. The bellhousing will not like it and neither will the rear forks.

I have broken pans with VW engines, the torque and power of a suby will be a lot more. I suggest you at least brace your rear forks.

Kombicol - November 2nd, 2003 at 09:22 AM

I made my own, if you are sticking a subie EJ into a kombi you can copy my design, (email or u2u if you like)

Jenny, the EJ20 is a heavy little sucker (~140kg), i sure as hell would be putting something else under it
- there isnt a hell of a lot of thread in those adapter plates either, they are only about 12 mm thick ...

Jenny - November 4th, 2003 at 06:49 AM

Hmm, guess that's just one more thing I'll have to discuss with the certifier!
Can anyone with the Suby/Beetle conversion post us some pics of the bracing?

Baja Wes - November 4th, 2003 at 12:31 PM

not subaru, but still relevant...

Brad - November 4th, 2003 at 12:49 PM

Those bars look great :thumb:thumb

Jenny - November 6th, 2003 at 06:40 AM

Crikey! I understand that your Baja cops a flogging but that sort of set-up would be overkill for a car, wouldn't it?
Nice work though.

Brad - November 6th, 2003 at 08:43 PM

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Originally posted by Jenny
Crikey! I understand that your Baja cops a flogging but that sort of set-up would be overkill for a car, wouldn't it?
Nice work though.

Flogging ??? You should see him drive it... so slowwwwww..

The thing that you have to remember is that VW was engineered to handle a 1600TP. Now you look at the kombi and as soon as it went bigger it got a rear crossmember and different mounting points on the transmission. The forces required it. The Stock VW bell housing is just not designed to handle the weight and power.

You may well get away with it, then again you could get away with running naked down the road, doesn't mean it is a smart thing to do.

I have an EA82T Baja in the Shed ATM and it doesn't have a rear cross member it does have more braceing around the KOMBI transmission bell housing though. If you hang an EJ 20 of a type 1 transmission you are asking for trouble .

Jenny - November 7th, 2003 at 02:57 PM

Would this sort of thing be suitable
http://www.aircooled.net/new-bin/viewproductdetail.php?keyword2=DRC0006&c...
http://www.aircooled.net/new-bin/viewproductdetail.php?keyword2=DRC0007&c...

Brad - November 7th, 2003 at 04:12 PM

Sort of but it still isn't helping out the bell housing any. If you are going to run one of them then you would also want two straps on the transmission as well.

Man those things are $$$$ for $275 USD plus postage I would be getting a custom setup made.

Jenny - November 8th, 2003 at 04:59 PM

Brad, can you give us some more detail on the bellhousing trans,ission straps?

Jenny - November 10th, 2003 at 06:55 AM

Something like this?
http://www.empius.com/t/transsupportsmounts.html

Brad - November 10th, 2003 at 07:36 AM

Yeah that is the sort of thing. You still need to brace up your rear forks though if you are just going to hand the EJ20 of them.

Have a look in a Subaru and you will see the EJ20 is not designed to hand of just 4 bolts from the block.

Jenny - January 16th, 2004 at 06:59 AM

Hi all. Found this picture of an IRS bug chassis with bracing and engine mounts for a Subaru EJ25 motor.

http://www.geocities.com/peterwood732/buggyproject/FloorPan.jpg

Quite an informative site. Here's the index page
http://www.geocities.com/peterwood73/index.html