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Factory HP of a Mazda KLZE 2.5lt V6 ??
Craig Torrens - October 19th, 2004 at 05:28 PM

What is the KW or HP for one of these motors ???


MikeM - October 19th, 2004 at 06:06 PM

http://www.offroadvw.net/bajawes/ 

or more specificly

http://www.offroadvw.net/bajawes/fm_V6_baja.htm 


Desert Moose - October 20th, 2004 at 12:29 AM

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Originally posted by Craig Torrens
What is the KW or HP for one of these motors ???


G'day Craig,
Mazda like to say they but out 200hp.......... but a friend of mine has a "new" from mazda engine in a buggy and the best he can get on the dyno is 182hp....... ( he was saying he would like to see the tests mazda do to get the Horses they claim) if your thinking about this Craig I can give you his number


seagull - October 20th, 2004 at 12:58 AM

the young guy at work just smashed his magna he asking $700.00 for the car motor runs ok .


lugnuts - October 20th, 2004 at 02:42 AM

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Originally posted by seagull
the young guy at work just smashed his magna he asking $700.00 for the car motor runs ok .
:duh


Andy42 - October 20th, 2004 at 05:52 AM

I would guess mazda claim HP at the motor and your friend had his buggy on a wheel dyno ?????????????????????


HotRodMatt - October 20th, 2004 at 08:25 AM

Most figures from manufacturers are flywheel figures.

On top of that the engines are detuned from the factory. Instead of building an engine that will keep its HP for years (that wouldn't be a capitalist option) they detune them and when power starts to drop from wear etc - the servicing schedule sees some of the tune dialed back in.


Craig Torrens - October 20th, 2004 at 08:44 AM

found it !!!! Australian spec 123KW at the flywheel.


Baja Wes - October 20th, 2004 at 01:12 PM

Craig,

The australia spec motor is not a KLZE. It is a KL03 or KLDE depending on who you ask.

The australia spec motor has 123kw or 165HP. That is at the flywheel.

The jap version is the KLZE. It has higher compression, wilder cams, a better flowing intake and better (bigger) ports. It has 147kW or 197HP (~200HP) at the flywheel.

There was also the jap millenia engine which was a KLZE, but had a different intake and the KL03 cams. It only had 170HP but was torquey as it powered a heavy auto car. Some people but the 200HP long neck intake on the 170HP curved neck manifold and think it will get 200HP, but it won't cos it still has the crap cams.

So be careful which one you buy (if your buying). And be wary of what engine people say they have. Like most jap motors there are many different variants with difference HP figures.


Baja Wes - October 20th, 2004 at 05:01 PM

I found a useful dyno graph.

The blue line is a stock 165HP KL03 Ford Probe.

The redy line is a modified KL03 probe.

The green line is a jap KLZE in a ford probe.

All HP is at the wheels on a dyno. Going by the base dyno the probes are getting a gearbox efficiency around 83% which is about right for a FWD. By using that, the jap KLZE probe is probably getting around 205HP, so the 200HP from Mazda is about right.

http://offroadvw.net/bajawes/KLV6/pgt-compare.jpg


Desert Moose - October 20th, 2004 at 05:10 PM

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Originally posted by Baja Wes
I found a useful dyno graph.




Hey' Wes, Have you got a link to the site you found this graph........ So I can pass it on to Stuart ( I think it may help him :thumb)

Thanks,
Chris


Baja Wes - October 27th, 2004 at 11:28 AM

better late than never...

I found the link to the site where I found the KLZE vs stock KL03 dyno chart...

http://klio.net/creasy/probe/klze.html