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Manx with a Suburu Engine.....
phantom - October 31st, 2004 at 04:47 PM

Can someone tell me how good (or otherwise) a Manx with a Suburu engine would be? Reliability, fuel consumption, noise, etc...would love any details you can spare. I don't know the engine details yet, but any general comments......!


Brad - October 31st, 2004 at 06:28 PM

that is a pretty wide question ... how reliable is a VW manx ?? It depends on so much .. i have seen subaru powered manx's that aren't worth pissing on .........

You may want to do some research and limit your question if you want some answers.


phantom - October 31st, 2004 at 07:55 PM

OK...is there an advantage to having a Suburu (or other) engine in a Manx, as opposed to a VW engine? Are there any disadvantages? Having had nothing to do with a Manx, and looking for one, I just want to be familiar with any aspects concerning different engines in a Manx.

Here's a question...I'll assume that if using a Suburu engine, you'd need a radiator...correct? Where would you fit it?

How about engineering certificates? If I buy a Manx that needs a certificate, how easy are they to acquire (as long as the engineering is OK), what do they cost, etc?


dragbug - October 31st, 2004 at 08:03 PM

OK,
Down here we have a very low red manx (copy)
which is running a Suby engine,
The radiator is hung out the back and all the crap extra wiring is hidn here and there.
Its not a bad conversion and give's you the option of cheap n nasty jap crap power.
On the whole i guess it works ok,just a s*#t load of extra work for something that is a weekend toy.
I'd save the money and drama's and stick with the intended design of a dub engine.
A nice 1776 would do you quite well in a car that weighs less than a stock 700kg beetle.
I'll try find the pic and post it.


phantom - October 31st, 2004 at 08:10 PM

Would love a pic of it. I'm looking into a Suburu powered Manx, hence the questions. If its goes OK with the Suburu then I'd leave it in for the moment, maybe to change it back later. Thanks....


dragbug - October 31st, 2004 at 08:43 PM

Its not the red one,
Tis another one i knew of though.
Shame about the pic quality...i know.


Andy42 - October 31st, 2004 at 09:04 PM

Well I reckon a subi engine is the Best way to go in a buggy. Gives you reliability and performance at a reasonable cost. I will be running a front mounted radiator and intercooler In my buggy. It will get through engineering if you do it correctly. Yes they are more work to begin with then a VW motor but once it is done if you happen to blow a motor for some reason you can go and get a low import motor for bugger all money and away you go again for another few hundred thousand Kms. Go with technology you simply can not beat it.


seagull - October 31st, 2004 at 11:13 PM

come to the other side :vader


555bug - November 1st, 2004 at 12:53 AM

dude if you are planning on a front mount intercooler then I suggest you get real used to lag like you would not believe :( thats a long run...say 3~5m why not go air/water or water injection or run it on methanol...so many other options :) Hmm subaru powered vw's


Andy42 - November 1st, 2004 at 06:58 AM

It is a water to Air system Not Air to Air.:duh


Brad - November 1st, 2004 at 09:03 AM

Andy's intercooler will be mounted on the engine.... the radiators for the intercooler will be up front. There will be no lag as it is in factory location, as far as manifolds go.


VWCOOL - November 1st, 2004 at 10:40 AM

Depends on your final intended use for the buggy. The beauty of a VW-powered Buggy is there's precious little to go wrong... as long as you have a fan belt, you have cooling. There's no lines to get broken or leak etc etc off-road. You will have to look at location of coolant lines and off-road suitability and make up your own mind... But yeah, 'Subie Dubbies' can be great


Baja Wes - November 1st, 2004 at 02:23 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by VWCOOL
The beauty of a VW-powered Buggy is there's precious little to go wrong...


The thing with a VW motor is there is less to go wrong, but a higher odds that it will go wrong.

Suby (or my V6 for example) has more parts, but they are all very reliable. If built properly you should not have any problems.

The VW motor likes regularly maintenance, if driven off-road then more than regular maintenance. My V6 on the other hand has so far done about 15,000km+ in my Baja and hasn't complained at all. I just change the oil every now and again. No tuning carbs or ignition / timing.


555bug - November 1st, 2004 at 02:41 PM

Quote:
I will be running a front mounted radiator and intercooler In my buggy.

my bad I just read this as you were going for a front mount intercooler (air-2-air) and I was like 'what the' I see you have Brad on the case so there will be no technical issues :) but your engine will probably be bright orange lol


Brad - November 1st, 2004 at 02:56 PM

mmm orange....

Biggest problem with VW engines is that they are 40 years old and most have had a hard life. Sure you can build a good one but they usually still use some old parts.

The beauty of a subi is that you slot it in and away you go ... only thing is if they aren't setup properly then the sux, over heat and run real bad ....


pete wood - November 1st, 2004 at 03:58 PM

I think you might like to read my buggy project diary. It'd would give you plenty of the answers you are looking for. Plus there is an engine conversion page too. Goto the geocities link below.
;)
[Edited on 1-11-2004 by pete wood]

[Edited on 1-11-2004 by pete wood]


MR930 - November 2nd, 2004 at 06:09 AM

The Manx you are thinking about has an EA81 motor (1800 carby) . I have had one of these in a J&S and it was great on the street but lacked the low down bit for offroad . Be warned that that buggy has no proof of rego in NSW so it will be near impossible to register unless you find a bodgy engineer.


phantom - November 2nd, 2004 at 09:32 AM

MR930, do you know the Manx I am hoping to look at? Can you giv me more info on it, its very sketchy currently. Why is it harder to register? I have emailed the RTA to find out the requirements, awaiting a reply as we speak.