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EJ Water manifold (reversed) into '78 Bay

ElusiveStranger - August 3rd, 2006 at 09:08 PM

Has anyone fitted a reversed water manifold into a late bay?
How did you get around the chassis member clearence prob?
I reversed mine and it fitted the engine a treat. Then I fitted the motor to the bus. The manifold fouls :cry

Is it only Bugs and T25s that run a reversed manifold?

MickH - August 3rd, 2006 at 10:00 PM

My bus's wasn't reversed. It would have hit the chassis.... :sniffle:

ElusiveStranger - August 4th, 2006 at 07:41 AM

Cheers Mick

I'd cut and turned it and it sat on the engine perfectly. It wasn't until fitting the engine that the problem showed. Grrr

MickH - August 4th, 2006 at 08:18 AM

But i cheated....I paid someone to do my engine conversion so i wouldn't make those kind of mistakes!!!!!! :blush:

GeorgeL - August 4th, 2006 at 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by ElusiveStranger
Has anyone fitted a reversed water manifold into a late bay?
How did you get around the chassis member clearence prob?
I reversed mine and it fitted the engine a treat. Then I fitted the motor to the bus. The manifold fouls :cry

Is it only Bugs and T25s that run a reversed manifold?

The reversed manifold is a natural for vanagons as it matches the stock watercooled configuration.

For bays, it seems that the stock water outlet works better. Just plumb it into a burp tank and from there to the radiator.

George

ElusiveStranger - August 4th, 2006 at 06:47 PM

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Originally posted by GeorgeL

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The reversed manifold is a natural for vanagons as it matches the stock watercooled configuration.

For bays, it seems that the stock water outlet works better. Just plumb it into a burp tank and from there to the radiator.

George

Thanks Guys.

George I did U2U you a while ago.
You asked about heating, check out Gerrelt's reply on http://www.vwkd.co.uk under heating (I think) and then his link to his Alfa conversion site. Nice bit of work.
Also try a Google on Water Swirl Pots.

GeorgeL - August 5th, 2006 at 09:10 AM

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Originally posted by ElusiveStranger

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Thanks greatly for the links.

Water swirl pots seem to be really "foreign" technology here in the US, probably because most hot-rod applications here have nice tall radiators in front. Your Google seach suggestion provided a number of UK sites that had nice examples.

I'll probably end up having a tank fabbed. Shouldn't be too much trouble for a competent radiator man.

Thanks, George

ElusiveStranger - August 5th, 2006 at 10:48 AM

Now I have to get a swirl pot for my bus, having just found out my rev manifold fouls my chassis, bugg3r. I hadn't heard of them before but I'm new to cars (VeeDubs (cars) for 5 yrs & bikes for 20!)
I'm loving Helbus' conversion along with Surf & Swoosh.
I'm going for the underbody rad but using a Jag XK40 rad (cheers Rich Baker, I owe him beer)

It's good to share knowledge

GeorgeL - August 7th, 2006 at 07:13 AM

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Originally posted by ElusiveStranger
Now I have to get a swirl pot for my bus, having just found out my rev manifold fouls my chassis, bugg3r. I hadn't heard of them before but I'm new to cars (VeeDubs (cars) for 5 yrs & bikes for 20!)
I'm loving Helbus' conversion along with Surf & Swoosh.
I'm going for the underbody rad but using a Jag XK40 rad (cheers Rich Baker, I owe him beer)

It's good to share knowledge

Here's a pic of the swirl pot I would like:

http://www-ksl-svc.stanford.edu:5915/doc/people/rice/car/new-motor-28.jpg

The only change I want it the lower fitting either go straight out the bottom or be rotated 90 degrees CCW, looking down on the pot. The vertical arrangement will work a lot better for my early Bay.

George

ElusiveStranger - August 15th, 2006 at 07:36 AM

Well the hacksaw's been out again. It fits The manifold sits as you'd expect but turns almost parallel to the block and points down to clear the chassis rail. Whoohoo

I have had to alter the heater return line to clear the new reversed manifold.