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wacked1 - August 15th, 2006 at 12:02 PM

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wacked1 - August 15th, 2006 at 12:04 PM

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wacked1 - August 15th, 2006 at 12:05 PM

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malcolm - August 15th, 2006 at 03:55 PM

better fit than the subies even with the non standard turbo.


squizy - August 15th, 2006 at 08:09 PM

Bwap, bwap, bwap, bwap, bwap.....do it Ron.


bus914 - August 15th, 2006 at 09:23 PM

Rotarys run well on LPG apparently.


boof2332 - August 15th, 2006 at 10:46 PM

Is this yours???? I just got another 2 ovals today. Bloody kronk(S MULLER) is the best salesman you will ever meet. Offers you a deal, then tells you there is no point thinking about it...its a no brainer...next thing you working out the standard 2 week payment plan.

Lets do a reality show OVAL BUILDOFF..2 teams, 2 ovals...rotor vs suby. It can have the build episodes then a drag episode, circuit and hillclimb shows...like the bug vs the crx in the states.

Sponsors???? Muller and Muller??

Matt

[ Edited on 15-8-06 by boof2332 ]


71superbug - August 15th, 2006 at 11:31 PM

my money is on the rota.

Ant


boof2332 - August 15th, 2006 at 11:53 PM

Lets make it happen...come over to sydney and see what my car goes like anthony(eveyday with high k's) Paul (1303) with his ej20t bug went in my car recently and said that there are cars you go in that are so quick that you feel nervous excitement when you get out...then there is mine, which you feel sick!.. do not forget, there is more than just a drag race in that show...thats why it would be cool.

I have written the script already... 2 ovals, 2 engines, 2 teams...budgets released progressively to contain amount of mods weeekly...initial 3 x drags x 3 weeks with $xxx per week once base car built. Then final shows (ten in total)with special event finishing at the nationals next year..or Valla. at the show and shine.

matt

[ Edited on 15-8-06 by boof2332 ]

[ Edited on 15-8-06 by boof2332 ]


avwboy - August 16th, 2006 at 12:53 AM

sign me up boof :P

pps . rotor team plz


71superbug - August 16th, 2006 at 01:25 AM

it would be cool matt.....what would be more interesting would be a oval convert (subie or rotary) vs aircooled oval..


hehe that oughta put the bickering aside :)

Anthony


wacked1 - August 16th, 2006 at 12:13 PM

na thats not mine i wish it was tho
i would be in that matt all we need is the money both cars should have simular susp, trans ect.
when do we start i got a 54 waiting for a rotor
cheers
ron


decked dubby - August 16th, 2006 at 12:16 PM

Go Ron!


wacked1 - August 16th, 2006 at 12:17 PM

come on damo you wanna sponsor me!!


boof2332 - August 17th, 2006 at 08:30 AM

I have been scouting for sponsors.. The cars would also have to pass engineering for the show to e "REAL"

It will be called OVALHAULIN

I will sell the idea to a network, and they can sponsor it!

There can be a series...oval v mini
oval v mg
oval v holden
oval v ford etc.

Im excited.
Matt


pete wood - August 17th, 2006 at 11:18 AM

I'd back the rotor if you get to rebuild it first.
I'll back the subie if they're junkyard special.

BTW, where are you exactly Matt. I might need to come out so you can make me feel sick.;)


pete wood - August 17th, 2006 at 11:21 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by boof2332
I have been scouting for sponsors.. The cars would also have to pass engineering for the show to e "REAL"

It will be called OVALHAULIN

I will sell the idea to a network, and they can sponsor it!

There can be a series...oval v mini
oval v mg
oval v holden
oval v ford etc.

Im excited.
Matt


does that mean you'll build 2 minis, holdens, MGs and fords with a rotor and a subie in each. Love to see that. At last the MG and the mini could get a real motor instead of those horrible wheezy boat anchors the english call engines. :puke


bajachris88 - August 17th, 2006 at 11:47 AM

GO WANKEL!!!


newoldmanx - August 17th, 2006 at 09:52 PM

to make this any sort of contest you'd have to use one of rigoli's 2.5 strokers as i think the quickest subie in the world is dom rigoli @9.1--148mph that doesnt even get in the top 10 quickest rotors in aus.the 10th fastest rotor in aus is a clear second quicker and theres 5 street rotors quicker than rigoli's drag car subie vs rotor NO BRAINER maybe rotors vs fj20s in ovals would be a better contest and lleave the subie to vs vw/autocraft a more even playing ground i volunteer to steer any

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pete wood - August 17th, 2006 at 10:53 PM

As I said before. If the motors are junkyard specials the subie will win for sure. Every 2nd hand rotor I've ever heard of needed a rebuild and a new turbo at least. Subies on the other hand seem to be almost bullet proof...coz from what I understand the only thing that killed boofs first motor was poor servicing on the lifters before he got it. Also, the rigoli's fastest car is AWD, which is almost a completely new endeavour in drag racing. People only started seriously racing AWDs about 10 years ago. So it's not really a fair comparison.

8.34sec 1/4 @ 158mph (Rigoli's STI) VS 7.89 @ 168mph (G.Mercevski in an RX3)

There's the difference in the times. Imagine if you put the rigoli's 2.5l stroker in a serious RWD car. I suspect the times would similar.


ruckus - August 18th, 2006 at 08:05 AM

I'll come up and film and edit the pilot for you Boof. Might bring the '54 up just in case you've got some spare conversion parts.


hehehe


Doug Sweetman - August 18th, 2006 at 10:39 AM

Thanks Pete, I too thought the Rigoli's had broken that pesky 9 second barrier a while ago.

Also, I'd love to see a suby in a serious RWD car.

Ona different topic - worlds fastest Camry - 7.03 second 1/4 !!!! have a look in the current Zoom. 1JZ with about 1160kw, not bad for 2.5L


pete wood - August 18th, 2006 at 11:47 AM

1J is 3litres isn't it?....Just looked it up, I'll be damned, that is awesome for a 2.5l. I know people avoid 1Js cause they make too much torque as compared to a RB26.


bus914 - August 18th, 2006 at 12:10 PM

how does a suby go on gas?

have a look at this:
http://autospeed.drive.com.au/cms/A_0406/article.html 



http://us1.webpublications.com.au/static/images/articles/i4/0406_2mg.jpg


pete wood - August 18th, 2006 at 02:42 PM

nice.

Be interesting to see how a Subie could go. I was ponder the idea of the conversion this morning. The bitch would be the ignition setup. EJs are crank triggered and run off the computer so it could be a bit of a pain.


Doug Sweetman - August 18th, 2006 at 03:58 PM

Yeah Pete, 1JZ = 2.5L, 2JZ = 3L

The 1JZ is the most understated engine of the 90's I think..... bulletproof bottom end (like most Toyo's)


buzdak - August 18th, 2006 at 07:06 PM

ROTORS THE GO should see some good hp.Building up a 12AT in 65 beetle.Good to see someone else going the same way.hope to get some pics up soon looks cool


[ Edited on 18/8/2006 by buzdak ]

[ Edited on 18/8/2006 by buzdak ]


newoldmanx - August 18th, 2006 at 09:13 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by pete wood
As I said before. If the motors are junkyard specials the subie will win for sure. Every 2nd hand rotor I've ever heard of needed a rebuild and a new turbo at least. Subies on the other hand seem to be almost bullet proof...coz from what I understand the only thing that killed boofs first motor was poor servicing on the lifters before he got it. Also, the rigoli's fastest car is AWD, which is almost a completely new endeavour in drag racing. People only started seriously racing AWDs about 10 years ago. So it's not really a fair comparison.

8.34sec 1/4 @ 158mph (Rigoli's STI) VS 7.89 @ 168mph (G.Mercevski in an RX3)

There's the difference in the times. Imagine if you put the rigoli's 2.5l stroker in a serious RWD car. I suspect the times would similar.

talk to your local mechanic orand 9/10 say vw's are boat anchors because they havent had much to do with them and therefore dont understand them the same goes for rotors because they are "unconventional" its a fact for a reason no-one in the top 10 quickest four cyl's run subie motors !!!and the 10th fastest rotor is still quicker than "world beating rigoli" as a matter of interest i run a ej20t sti in my dual cab but also have a 13bpp in a rx7


boof2332 - August 19th, 2006 at 07:40 AM

Do not forget kids that the Oval haulin episode rules state that the cars must be engineered. So the rota will not be a 13b. The cars will also be required to drive to the events...the builds will be totally individual. Remember that within the budgets you have to choose and run a vw box(build it yourself if need be) and suspension and brakes must be able to do a circuit, and maybe a hilclimb. The balance between handling, drag racing and reliability, will mean(i hope) that it will not be as onesided as you think.

WRX's have always been a challenge to get moving due to the weight and the time taken to get those 4 wheels spinning. Those quick rota times are in cars easy under 900kg, similar to a bug to start with.

There is only one way to find out and it will be on
OVAL HAULIN.

If those rough as guts idiots on Orange County Choppers can make a show....well why cant we. Maybe dropping engine parts, while using a step drill to make the engine mounts fit is what people want?

Matt


newoldmanx - August 19th, 2006 at 09:27 PM

what no 13b:( well there goes the idea of the 20bpp i wont pretend to know anything about icv's(thats already been done here) but i did think if the pockets were deep enough you could get just about put any motor in anything if you could get power to weight within the tolerances even if it was full of lead