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subie conversion costing ?
malcolm - August 28th, 2006 at 10:57 PM

has anyone done the full costing of putting a subie ej20t in a bug with a transaxle that can handle the torque.including cooling system wiring .
Thanks Malcolm.


seagull - August 28th, 2006 at 11:38 PM

Sure ( this is my cost )

WRX motor $1500.00 c/w full loom ecu , cooling system
G50 gear box $3000.00
adapter plate & fly wheel & clutch $1000.00
you add in the small bits to make it fare

Let me know if your going this way as have some G50 & 6 wrx coming down

Dreamers most welcome


malcolm - August 28th, 2006 at 11:43 PM

seagull is that your own adapter plate


VWCOOL - August 29th, 2006 at 08:09 AM

lots of custom bits and time to mount and install things like cooling system. $10K + if you pay someone else - but I thought you'd be able to guesstimate this yourself...?


ian.mezz - August 29th, 2006 at 11:05 AM

I think matt, boof2332 said about $ 9000 with bug gear box,


malcolm - August 29th, 2006 at 04:04 PM

vwcool why make and guess when there are 3 + people who have done this conversion on the forum and who might of come a cross some hidden cost or problems ,thats what a forum for to help each other share info,so have you done this conversion.


71superbug - August 29th, 2006 at 04:12 PM

neil...let me know about the g50s...price .etc

u2u me


Anthony


VWCOOL - August 29th, 2006 at 06:32 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by malcolm
vwcool why make and guess when there are 3 + people who have done this conversion on the forum and who might of come a cross some hidden cost or problems ,thats what a forum for to help each other share info,so have you done this conversion.


Yes

[ Edited on 29-8-2006 by VWCOOL ]


Craig Torrens - August 29th, 2006 at 09:40 PM

Brad at Custom offroad has a price list on here somewhere, it was around the $9000 drive in drive out mark. This did not include any gearbox mods or brake upgrades.

So about :

$9000 for the conversion
$3000 for gearbox upgrades
$1000 for brake upgrades.

I have not done the conversion so it's best to talk to people like Custom Offroad, or Matt(Boof), they have costed the project out correctly.

Performance whether it air or water cooled always costs $$$$ :thumb


malcolm - August 29th, 2006 at 09:44 PM

always cost and getting harder to get it past the other half, especially when I,m building valve amps and custom speakers as well:spin:


VWCOOL - August 29th, 2006 at 09:45 PM

lol... aren't you doing a G50 conversion as well?


malcolm - August 29th, 2006 at 09:48 PM

915 conversion bought the box off of my engineer $850might need a crown wheel


VWCOOL - August 29th, 2006 at 09:59 PM

Sweet... that's why I figured you might be able to figure out what's involved with chopping bodies and fitting radiators etc


vwtyp2 - August 29th, 2006 at 10:12 PM

you can buy my T25 with an ej20t for $7500


555bug - August 29th, 2006 at 10:17 PM

I'm pretty anal when it comes to $$ as I don't make enough to piss it away. I have a reasonably complete spreadsheet of costs to get my project finished and at this stage the number is just shy of 30K. Keep in mind that this is a body off do it right build and I am very handy so most stuff is being done by me. I just don't think there are any shortcuts if you are silly enough to want a 250~500hp bug. I'm pretty sure though I could get an ej20T in a super in good nick for 5~6K but I would not be happy with the end result. Just my thoughts.


GTMac - August 29th, 2006 at 10:30 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Craig Torrens
Brad at Custom offroad has a price list on here somewhere, it was around the $9000 drive in drive out mark. This did not include any gearbox mods or brake upgrades.

So about :

$9000 for the conversion
$3000 for gearbox upgrades
$1000 for brake upgrades.

I have not done the conversion so it's best to talk to people like Custom Offroad, or Matt(Boof), they have costed the project out correctly.

Performance whether it air or water cooled always costs $$$$ :thumb


Remember those costs are for NA, there is more f#cking around with the turbo and many more little bits and pieces. I have not done my total costs but its under 10k. I think with wise buying I could complete for 5-6k easy.


malcolm - August 29th, 2006 at 10:33 PM

555 hows your bug coming along hows the shifter going ,I,m looking at this 1 due to what a second hand porsche shifter cost plus the short shift kits $400to $900.http://www.cae-racing.de/
CAE Automobiltechnik Essen - CAE Racing - Prototypenbau - Rennsporttechnik - Kleinserienbau


malcolm - August 29th, 2006 at 10:36 PM

http://www.cae-racing.de/ 
CAE Automobiltechnik Essen - CAE Racing - Prototypenbau - Rennsporttechnik - Kleinserienbau
about $880 landed


newoldmanx - August 30th, 2006 at 02:56 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by vwtyp2
you can buy my T25 with an ej20t for $7500

nice!!!! buy this remove engine bolt outbolt in sell bus 3-4your well ahead


71superbug - August 30th, 2006 at 03:20 PM

i think all up i have spent about 9-10k so far on my ej20t 71super project.

still a lot to do.


Anthony


gull - August 30th, 2006 at 03:40 PM

I need your brake pads Anthony .drop them off so I can make a start , neil


MISS VDUB - August 30th, 2006 at 03:47 PM

Everything ive gotten so far i own!

Nothing on the credit card! Not long now Neil!

Ash x


71EJVan - August 30th, 2006 at 04:13 PM

My 71 Bay EJ20T Panel.

EJ20T, loom, ECU: 2000
Exhaust: 300
Fuel pumps/hoses: 350
Brakes: 1000
Adaptor: 600
Clutch: 300
Radiator and bits: 500
091 box: 400
Steel for xmember: 200
Bloody hose clamps: lots

I'd say $6500 with me doing all design and fabrication.

Brendan


Baja Wes - August 30th, 2006 at 05:20 PM

Here is my V6 conversion cost which may be of some interest. I did almost everything myself and did it on the cheap side. I used as much as possible from the front cut.

http://www.offroadvw.net/bajawes/images/v6_cost.gif


gull - August 30th, 2006 at 05:43 PM

ASh :P:thumb


THUDKNUCKLE - August 30th, 2006 at 06:06 PM

Water conversions arent cheap,,, it may not be a subi conversion but my rotary baja engine conversion has recepts just over 10k ,, take in to acount that my car and engine never saw another work shop other then my home garage and all work and fab was undertaken by myself ( minus adaptor plate and flywheel)..

Might help a bit when considering a water cooled conversion price, however the non stop smile when it is all finished and finally runs is all worth it.


555bug - August 30th, 2006 at 07:09 PM

Malcolm, the shifter works on the bench but there is not a lot of room in the tunnel once you have coolant, hydraulic, fuel, and wiring in there. Options wise I am looking at relocating the hand brake to the side of the tunnel and building a bit of a bulge to fit the mechanism in. The next cost is getting the cable length sorted but I guy I know with a gt40 can do them for sane money. Hopefully the pan will be completed by the end of the year and to be honest that's the biggest issue with my build as all the rest is pretty straightforward.


Baja Wes - August 30th, 2006 at 07:25 PM

I guess you can see the variation in pricing here. Your getting prices at the low end like me, being $3500 for engine conversion and rear disc brakes (even less after I sold the VW motor), to $9000 drive in drive out at a workshop, to $10000 for thudknuckle when doing it all himself.


malcolm - August 30th, 2006 at 09:14 PM

thanks for all the replys.if I go ahead with the subie conversion in Victoria I have to have a torsion test done similar to kit cars ie clubman 7,s ,cobras. This is because of the suspension mods I,m doing but these will allow me to run the wheel size and track I want legally also porsche 915 gearbox & ej20t would add 50kg,s + out the back.If I go the the orignal motor a turbo type4 I don,t need to have the torsion test done so I,m in a bit of a dilema.
so thanks again for the replys.


Craig Torrens - August 30th, 2006 at 10:19 PM

turbo type4:blush