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how would a 1usfe v8 go in a beach buggy?
jigga - October 8th, 2007 at 08:20 PM

as the title says. does anyone know?

ryfoz - October 8th, 2007 at 08:40 PM

The key issue is the cooling, as with all water cooled conversions.
Sort out the cooling and the rest is just plug and play.

helmut - October 8th, 2007 at 09:09 PM

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:smilegrin:

helmut - October 19th, 2007 at 03:58 PM

im think this engine is too heavier also the mass is very high for lighter buggy because is v8 also not reving so good much better for flatter 4(mass is lower in car) engine stroked subaru ej20+turbo also nos=:grind::punk:

bajachris88 - October 19th, 2007 at 04:17 PM

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Originally posted by helmut
im think this engine is too heavier also the mass is very high for lighter buggy because is v8 also not reving so good much better for flatter 4(mass is lower in car) engine stroked subaru ej20+turbo also nos=:grind::punk:


agreed...

Mate, if you want a V8, buy an adapter kits for the gearbox (look on the net for vw ones, depends what v8 engine ur considering of course), wire it up (hopefully its just a carb v8)

Its alot more HP, but the extra amount of weight on the rear is nuts... you will be doing wheel stands at idle lol with the huge amount of kilos that would be behind the rear wheels. Of course it depends what engine, but mind you though, the weight ratios between the front and rear and the suspension setup, as well as the strength of the gearbox, was all designed for the weight and HP of a vw motor.

If you can find a light v8 though, something besides a 400kg 308 lol, you could be alright mate. but just take it into consideration :)

11CAB - October 19th, 2007 at 04:58 PM

The Lexus V8 weighs in around the 200kg mark, and you need enough room to bolt in a 700mm cube to your gearbox as that is the approx size of the engine.

Legally in Aus I think you wont be able to get it registered....however stick it in the back of a kombi no problems.....:lol:

MikeM - October 19th, 2007 at 05:54 PM

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Originally posted by jigga
as the title says. does anyone know?


nope.

jigga - October 21st, 2007 at 09:11 AM

cheers guys.

i was thinking of the 1uzfe. but im happy with the subaru engine.

what would be the cost of one of these conversions.

bearing in mind it wouldnt be a brand new crate motor.

ta

MikeM - October 21st, 2007 at 09:59 AM

Use the search button mate, you'll learn heaps.

Also if you a re truelly serious and not just a tyre kicker have a chat to these guys
http://www.customveedub.com.au/ 

helmut - October 21st, 2007 at 10:23 AM

final price is depend on you
me i can buy nice subaru 2.5 front used for 34,000jpy is $300us replace timing belt water pump ....machine of the converter use it radiator ems also factory wire buy hoses steel ...high torque start you can do it for youself $900usd $1000easy

also you can take it car to workshop and pay those people for your work drive it in drive it out stock 2.5l for most $3000

also best is:tu:
your rebuild in niceist parts close block h-beam 4340 rod JE race piston build it 2.8 600+hp = $7000usd can use 25psi =:grind::punk::crazy:

also you can buy it this engine $23000+usd bolt in it


my point is being you can do it for $800 or you can do it $23000+ is depend on you

helmut - October 21st, 2007 at 11:10 AM

before do it motor you do brake also suspension also chassis and fuel tank system

pete wood - October 22nd, 2007 at 08:57 AM

the answer is YES to the 1uzfe.

all the offroad guys over here are going to the toyota V8s. they are an awesome motor and very cheap. they'd be great in a buggy, but you won't get it regoed in most states. if you do go with the V8, the trick with weight is to have big long trailing arms and axles so that the motor is further ahead in the wheelbase than would normally be the case with a VW. that way you get a better balance.

helmut - October 24th, 2007 at 12:48 PM

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Originally posted by pete wood
the answer is YES to the 1uzfe.

all the offroad guys over here are going to the toyota V8s. they are an awesome motor and very cheap. they'd be great in a buggy, but you won't get it regoed in most states. if you do go with the V8, the trick with weight is to have big long trailing arms and axles so that the motor is further ahead in the wheelbase than would normally be the case with a VW. that way you get a better balance.

im think the word you miss is "beach"
im think like this "all the offroad guys" over there are not putting v8 in the beach buggy???:crazy:

"the v8 is awsome motor" but not for beach buggy you must put it full cage front to back big long trailing arms are same like you use it long pipe on breaking bar torsion house is not taking it force you must be using 2-3coilover shockon both side with "big long trail arms" also must put gearbox in position so cv's is not bind also beach buggy is short not like race buggy long so you must be adding it weight to front you add weight to front weight to back is make it heavy car hardest to stop also turning also running in sand beach buggy must be lighter as is possible i am think

i have been drive in v8 buggy, v6, straight 6, flat 6, flat 4, straight 4, across 4(motorbike engine), v2 ,3 rotor, 2 rotor, 1 rotor

i am think 2 rotor fit and flat motor is best for lighter beach buggy

pete wood - October 24th, 2007 at 01:37 PM

I hear what you are saying helmut, but I guess it depends what he wants to use it for. yes the 1U is a bit heavier than a suby, but it's also a lot torquier. steering on the beach is best left to turning brakes (which the offroad guys use too). If you are worried about weight, look at all the chev powered sandrails in the states. they don't seem to worried about it. In fact, the 1U is quite light being roughly the same weight as your average iron block 4cyl or V6 (which are both used a lot on rails). Over here in Australia, the 1U is simply the best bang for buck NA motor you can find. not only that, but it will cope with 2 turboes WITHOUT any internal mods. Don't worry about those JE pistons emptying your wallet, just bolt on 2 SR20 turboes and an instant 700hp is at your fingertips.

helmut - October 24th, 2007 at 06:37 PM

yes motor cheap build 700hp buggy not cheap =4130 frame/cage for the start ( forget cheap piston) you talk mendeola S4D/ albins transaxle good coilover shock x 6 minimum trailing arm torsion house power to weight for small v8 v flat 4 did you drive with one extra person in your car on the dunes it is make big change turning stopping if want 700hp buggy you cannot properly say "cheap" i say is very nice for race buggy but not 4 beach buggy nice handling a good gravity center nice and lower and shorter not longer in back of car is like long pole on break bar also also is much big chance of break component with more wieght
i like your think but is not like for me this is why all the car is not the same for me if im going v8 is ls7 everyday

helmut - October 24th, 2007 at 06:53 PM

is not for sure but is close...

ej25 =275lb = 2.5l =124kg

ls7 = 458lb = 7.0l =207kg

1uzfe = 486lb = 4.0l =220kg

pete wood - October 25th, 2007 at 12:35 PM

interesting, shocking even. but the 1U is still a lot cheaper.

helmut - October 26th, 2007 at 08:21 AM

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Originally posted by pete wood
interesting, shocking even. but the 1U is still a lot cheaper.

i say
"yes motor cheap build 700hp buggy not cheap =4130 frame/cage for the start ( forget cheap piston) you talk mendeola S4D/ albins transaxle good coilover shock x 6 minimum trailing arm torsion house power to weight for small v8 v flat 4 did you drive with one extra person in your car on the dunes it is make big change turning stopping if want 700hp buggy you cannot properly say "cheap" "

but maybe you are buy it bicycle is..
cheap buy
cheap run
cheap maintanence
cheap replace :lol::lol:
when i did see it 1uzfe i do not know much im work crew in baja 1000 next month and im looking for 1uzfe i get it some more infomation from other crews

rocknrob - October 26th, 2007 at 10:23 AM

Thanks for the international input Helmut...i'm (nearly) always interested in new information:tu:...keep it up!