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EJ22 into a 76 bay
alexit - February 12th, 2008 at 06:41 PM

Hi all
Not a regular poster but I tend to lurk round every once a while.....:ninja:
I have a 76 delux bus and for the last 5 years she has been very good to me but a recent trip saw the #3 valve seat retreat slightly leaving her performance... well.... lacking.
This car is my 3rd and strongest kombi I have owned over the last 12 years... and I love this car!
After a lot of head scratching and the like I bit the bullet and put an order in with COR for a EJ22 kit..I have been told it is ready and should be here next week.:cool:
Will keep you all updated on the progress.
alex

modulus - February 13th, 2008 at 01:33 PM

I presume you're aware of the 'helbus' conversion; it turned out very well...

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=38417&page=1 

hth

pete wood - February 13th, 2008 at 03:06 PM

welcome to the 20th century mate. you won't regret it. :cool:

BTW, where are you in Sydney?

helbus - February 13th, 2008 at 07:18 PM

The EJ22 is no V8 beater, but it idles on 700rpm at the lights, and certainly keeps up with modern traffic, pulls in top gear up hills, and will give VN V6 Commodores a good run for their pennies. Change oil and filter every 5000, Coolant, fuel filter, air filter and plugs every 20,000. Cambelt every 100,000 and that is about all the maintenance you require. I would think that is it. Yeah? There is no tuning required.

alexit - February 13th, 2008 at 08:22 PM

Yeah I have seen The Hellbus post... must have read it through bout a dozen times! It is what really got me thinking bout the subi. Those type of topics... a build topic... really help in all sorts of ways I think... thanks Hellbus! I will try and do my own here to give something back.
Not after a V8 or anything beater. I tow a boat so all I want is to not be afraid of hills or long drives with the boat and no tuning sounds great!
BTW
I live in Enmore but the bus is at work in the city... Walsh Bay. I have the best workshop veiw in Sydney! Feel free to drop me a line and come say hello.
alex

alexit - February 13th, 2008 at 08:26 PM

BTW Helbus.
There was much talk of mods to the radiator setup... scoops and such.
Have you made any changes as such?
Do you see any problem arising after time on the road?
Any other things you would have done different?
alex

helbus - February 14th, 2008 at 05:12 PM

I haven't modified the radiator. It runs 75-85 degrees around town, and 85-95 on the highway. The highway temp could be lowered with modified louvres on the shroud.

The main things I would have done different, would be the fill point for the header tank more accessible. The fitting of a heater would be another one. I will see how the 215mm stock clutch goes. It was not renewed when engine was fitted, and I do give it a lot of use. It has been at the drag track a few times, and I stall up the clutch to take off

rocknrob - February 14th, 2008 at 06:29 PM

I also was inspired by Helbus's write up and read every other write up i could find but eventually you just have to give it a go.:cool: I made things more difficult for myself by reversing the intake manifold although it made the throttle link easy. I also put the radiator at the front inside the cabin with no cutting of external bodywork...cools like a dream and suits my offroad trips better. Just take your time and figure it out and you will so enjoy the benifits...nothin like cruising down the motorway at 140:lol:

ElusiveStranger - February 15th, 2008 at 09:55 AM

Alexit. I based a lot of my conversion on Helbus' and Ej71vans work. (Big up to those two)

http://www.vwkd.co.uk/bb/viewtopic.php?t=228 
http://www.vwkd.co.uk/bb/viewtopic.php?t=241 
http://www.vwkd.co.uk/bb/viewtopic.php?t=261 
http://www.vwkd.co.uk/bb/viewtopic.php?t=288 
http://www.vwkd.co.uk/bb/viewtopic.php?t=638 

HTH

alexit - February 15th, 2008 at 10:40 PM

Not to worried bout the stock clutch Helbus... no drags for this bus.:dork:
So your rad setup is mounted toward the front with the fan kicking in at 85ish and pulling air up and thru the rad...?
Stranger... how do you fing your scoop setup? I guess your fan blows air down thru the rad?
Rocknrob...and links to your build?
Anyone tried a pair of air intakes each side behnd the front wheels?

ElusiveStranger - February 16th, 2008 at 12:00 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by alexit

Stranger... how do you fing your scoop setup? I guess your fan blows air down thru the rad?


Rad works sweet. The fan kicks in at approx 95°C as I have it controlled by the Scooby ECU. (On mine the threshold is also controlled by vehicle speed, VSS fitted)

The fan is mounted on top of the rad, yup it's a blower. I think it's a Ford aircon fan but can't tell you anymore as I stumbled upon it in a breakers (wreckers) yard.

I personally thought it would be far better to direct the hot air towards the road & into the 'air that I'd just passed'. My theory was directing it up towards the floor of the van means it's moving into stagnent air.

alexit - February 18th, 2008 at 07:57 PM

Got the motor and bits today and I am a happy camper!
The rad setup from COR has a scoop and the fans pull the air up thru. I will install as is and see how it goes... Helbus seems to have the same setup with no dramas.
I have the rest of the week off and plen to get right into it.

OZ Towdster - February 18th, 2008 at 08:10 PM

Glad to hear it all arived safe and sound , have fun

Signed

Your mates at CVD

GeorgeL - February 21st, 2008 at 06:53 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by ElusiveStranger

The fan is mounted on top of the rad, yup it's a blower. I think it's a Ford aircon fan but can't tell you anymore as I stumbled upon it in a breakers (wreckers) yard.

I personally thought it would be far better to direct the hot air towards the road & into the 'air that I'd just passed'. My theory was directing it up towards the floor of the van means it's moving into stagnent air.


You have the right idea.

Fast moving air has lower pressure than slow moving air. The air close under the bus is moving slowly while the air beneath it is moving rapidly. The natural tendency of air is to move from high pressure (stagnant area just under the bus) to low pressure (the slipstream)

This goes a bit counter to the normal "heat rises" argument, but if any motion at all is involved it will overpower the convective effect.

rocknrob - February 22nd, 2008 at 07:00 PM

Hi alex, i posted earlier about front mount rad but have been away in central aus. I can post up some pics if you like but if you are happy with underneath well go for it:tu:

alexit - February 24th, 2008 at 07:19 PM

Hey Rob...your setup sounds great but I will go for the underbus setup I have from COR.... seems a nice bit of kit.

Anyway I have updates to do.

I have been busy on the body for a while now. It is very straight but showing its age so I have stripped all of the seams and cut out a bit of rust in the front steps and drivers wheel well. No rust is my aim.
I all has been preped and hit with POR 15 which I have found great previously.

alexit - February 24th, 2008 at 10:12 PM

The radiator setup I got from COR seems to be slighty different to Helbus.
There are 2 fans mounted ontop and a big scoop under.
Nice bit of kit and it should work well.
I did however remount the 2 fans so there were a bit more secure and added a brace at the back end.