Can anyone tell me if I can fit a non turbo subi engine in to a 72 ghia without having to cut in to the firewall? I don't mind cutting the engine bay area but do not want to go in to the firewall.

Thanks

Yogie

Hi Yogie

with an N/A engine theres no cutting to firewall if you get a throttle body inverter or reverse the manifold

Paul is doing this as we speek in Perth now , he has one of my adapter plates and fly wheels.
The motor is a STI 2ltr motor running a TD05 turbo with a custom built dragster kombi 2ltr box that I flew in from the USA for him. This machine is going to kick some ass over her in wa with around the 300hp at the rears.

I dont think he is cutting the fire wall even with the turbo motor in the rear

ghias just have the same firewall as a bug so it would be the same as a beetle install

Thanks guys. I wasn't sure about the room from front to back compared to a beetle. Side to side is lots better. It would be interesting to see photos of what one looks like with an inverter if any one has some. Would also like to see the one you are talking about seagull if you can get some pictures.

Does anyone know if the beetle kafer cup type bars for a beetle fit a ghia?

Cheers

Yogie

I doubt very much if you can fit a turbo engine into a Ghia without cutting the firewall unless you did some serious re-working of the turbo setup and induction system..

The EJ 22 with a CVD Invert Manifold will fit into a Ghia without cutting the firewall. You will have to cut the engine sealing tinware but that is about it.

When I was orininally playing with the EJ 22 invert manifold I tried a few different angles and designs to get the best fit. Then I test fitted the engine in everything I could find sitting around. One of those sitting around was a Ghia so I know it fits. In fact that Ghia is still sitting in my backyard.

Anyway it clears in a beetle no stress and same with Ghia, but you do need to cut out the engine bay sealing tinware.



Here you can see it in a beetle, clears easy and fits under the stock engine lid without moving the transmission fwd at all.

Hey Seagull
Is thre going to be a post of the Pauls turbo Ghia build as thinking of doing something similar later this year
Or links to other Ghia EJ20T builds
Cheers gaz

I think there is but not on AVD , Pauls coming over this week so I will ask

Thanks for the photo Brad. Is the inverter an off the shelf product or do you get it made to order to suit your installation?

Cheers

Yogie

I think someone posted some pics of a Yellow Ghia???
here some where.

http://www.manxgallery.org/gallery/GCVW2006?page=1 

Was actually Gold Coast Show 2006.

Thanks guys. I had seen the photos of the yellow one. While it looks great, it cuts in to the firewall in a big way which is want I want to avoid. It does show the cutting required around the engine itself which is done very well and will be helpful for me if I go down the subi path. There are a couple of other posts about the radiator that help heaps as well.

That yellow car installation is really tidy so that is why I wanted to see if anyone had any photos of the install with an inverted manifold to see if it can look as good.

Cheers

Brett

WOW WOW and FKN WOW!!
There's not too many conversions on the net that impress me with their engineering and neatness, but that one is at the top of the list.
AWESOME!! Well done. I'm inspired.

really nice, besides the yellow!

Hi

I like the colour and the car, wonder how the A/C goes. Besides black I'm considering the new Suzuki yellow for my new car.

Steve

i had a chat with the owner of that KG at the show
he and his son who had a bug there both built to very high standards
what impressed me was all the carbon fibre he put in it

even the door panels

Amazing
Thought of doing this to the replica but was pretty sure i'd fail the chassis torsion test with no roll cage a a glass body.
A rex struggles as it is to get the power down through 4 driving wheels with a beatifully balanced chassis. I cannot imagine what it would be like in a ghia with all that weight hangin off the back.
Regardless, Very very Nice work

interesting...in that latest pic it looks like the turbo has been moved to the other side of the engine...

That orange one looks awesome. It still cuts the firewall but with the invertor, it would solve that problem. Very professional installation. Only thing is, why does the orange one have only 1 filter on top of the engine and the yellow car have one on top and another on the side?

Yogie

Because the yellow one has a top mount and the orange has a front mount. Im such a ricer

from memory the orange one was twin turbo

doesn't look twin turbo to me - only 1 intake/filter showing and turbo is much higher than the std twin turbo location.

Steve, get over yellow!

I'm usually not a yellow fan either but tht colour suits the car

I have a 74 ghia with a 2.2 engine. No cutting of the firewall. Just rotate the complete intake manifold. Search for pics under my name and you should find.