Subaru swap on a dyno results?
krusher74 - July 18th, 2011 at 07:32 PM
Hi, has anyone got there subaru swapped vw onto a dyno yet, was just interested to see that number they put to the ground compared to what subaru said
that engine put out?
helbus - July 18th, 2011 at 10:35 PM
EJ22 in bus
76KW (101hp)at the back wheels.
That would be about 135hp at the engine!
seagull - July 19th, 2011 at 12:13 AM
EJ20 n/a quad cam
121 hp with wheel spin in top gear ( my trike )
2" exhaust , cat , 400mm home made muffler
krusher74 - July 19th, 2011 at 01:21 AM
| Quote: |
Originally
posted by helbus
EJ22 in bus
76KW (101hp)at the back wheels.
That would be about 135hp at the engine!
|
According the Wiki the ej221 makes 133hp and the Ej222 142hp so your right on the money.
DubCrazy - July 19th, 2011 at 06:35 AM
EA82T 112 bhp at the wheels and after it was freshend up 120bhp at wheels...
steff.........
Fastie - July 19th, 2011 at 08:16 AM
Hey Jak, what kind of gearbox/es have you gathered those kms with. Just looking at my options now - and thinking of starting with a Rancho
ian.mezz - July 19th, 2011 at 01:05 PM
click on both links below.
http://www.youtube.com/user/avwnut#p/u/58/4Q_hJU9pd3A
vassy66T1 - July 19th, 2011 at 01:39 PM
| Quote: |
Fully Sik. The purists love it!
|
Slap my cap on backwards and turn that techno bass up!
ratbug - July 19th, 2011 at 04:00 PM
My 2.0L EJ20 Quad cam was 110Hp atw stock ECU, 125Hp microtec ECU.
2.0L EJ20T quad cam turbo (legacy RS motor with VF10 turbo and stock ECU) was 175Hp atw.
From experience, all 2-2.2L Ej's seem to produce between 100-130Hp atw, turbo versions 165-210hp from stock to relatively mild mods.
2.5L non turbos don't have that much more hp, but have a fair bit more torque down low.
krusher74 - July 19th, 2011 at 05:52 PM
| Quote: |
Originally
posted by ratbug
My 2.0L EJ20 Quad cam was 110Hp atw stock ECU, 125Hp microtec ECU.
2.0L EJ20T quad cam turbo (legacy RS motor with VF10 turbo and stock ECU) was 175Hp atw.
From experience, all 2-2.2L Ej's seem to produce between 100-130Hp atw, turbo versions 165-210hp from stock to relatively mild mods.
2.5L non turbos don't have that much more hp, but have a fair bit more torque down low.
|
Cool , so you gained 15hp with the aftermarket ecu.
ratbug - July 19th, 2011 at 11:08 PM
| Quote: |
Originally
posted by krusher74
| Quote: | Originally
posted by ratbug
My 2.0L EJ20 Quad cam was 110Hp atw stock ECU, 125Hp microtec ECU.
2.0L EJ20T quad cam turbo (legacy RS motor with VF10 turbo and stock ECU) was 175Hp atw.
From experience, all 2-2.2L Ej's seem to produce between 100-130Hp atw, turbo versions 165-210hp from stock to relatively mild mods.
2.5L non turbos don't have that much more hp, but have a fair bit more torque down low.
|
Cool , so you gained 15hp with the aftermarket ecu.
|
Apparently, Was at the same shop on the same dyno. The operator said I could probably get 10-20hp extra with aftermarket ECU... he tuned it and yeah
got 15hp extra... BUT i didnt really notice it. It seemed to just have a bit more top end power. Although it had more power on paper it wasnt as good,
harder to start, sometimes played up, the tuner wasnt really up on subies.... So when I did my new car with the turbo engine, i stayed with the stock
ecu. Sure an aftermarket ecu is better on a turbo, but just couldnt be bothered again.
krusher74 - July 20th, 2011 at 07:10 AM
| Quote: |
Originally
posted by ratbug
| Quote: | Originally
posted by krusher74
| Quote: | Originally
posted by ratbug
My 2.0L EJ20 Quad cam was 110Hp atw stock ECU, 125Hp microtec ECU.
2.0L EJ20T quad cam turbo (legacy RS motor with VF10 turbo and stock ECU) was 175Hp atw.
From experience, all 2-2.2L Ej's seem to produce between 100-130Hp atw, turbo versions 165-210hp from stock to relatively mild mods.
2.5L non turbos don't have that much more hp, but have a fair bit more torque down low.
|
Cool , so you gained 15hp with the aftermarket ecu.
|
Apparently, Was at the same shop on the same dyno. The operator said I could probably get 10-20hp extra with aftermarket ECU... he tuned it and yeah
got 15hp extra... BUT i didnt really notice it. It seemed to just have a bit more top end power. Although it had more power on paper it wasnt as good,
harder to start, sometimes played up, the tuner wasnt really up on subies.... So when I did my new car with the turbo engine, i stayed with the stock
ecu. Sure an aftermarket ecu is better on a turbo, but just couldnt be bothered again.
|
In simple terms what I have read/heard, is that due to emissions and catalytic converters (and tuning to cover all atmospheric conditions around the
planet) most stock ecu maps are set up for stoich 14.6 to 1 fuel air ratio.
So where an after market ecu/engine chipping can help is you can go to 12.5/13 to 1 heavy throttle and get more power and run 16.5/17 to 1 at part
throttle and get better mpgs.
A rich mix is easier ignited and a lean mix is harder to light and slow burning so you take full advantage of these wider ranging fuel mixes you also
need to adjust your spark timing map.
I'm thinking your dyno guy adjusted your fuel map to get you the extra 15hp but did not dial in the spark timing, hence you did not like it.
JVLRacing - July 20th, 2011 at 01:38 PM
| Quote: |
Originally
posted by Jak Rizzo
Andrew's fastback with the same motor as mine, same Microtech running from memory the stock? 13.5psi boost & slightly bigger exhaust has 242hp at
the wheels. Pretty nice for a factory engine.
Jak
|
Not the same motor as urs......cause it has 242hp!!
The setup is alot neater
seagull - July 20th, 2011 at 07:26 PM
I had a metal cat on mine and it helped over the stock cat
krusher74 - July 21st, 2011 at 04:19 AM
| Quote: |
Originally
posted by seagull
I had a metal cat on mine and it helped over the stock cat
|
What is a metal cat? (not that I actually ever want to own a car new enough to have a cat)
modulus - July 21st, 2011 at 07:29 AM
What is a metal cat?
hth
max autos - July 21st, 2011 at 10:41 PM
bhahahahahah
seagull - July 22nd, 2011 at 12:15 AM
seagull - July 22nd, 2011 at 12:15 AM
EJ22 open deck motor, forged pistons, wrx heads Vf37 turbo
