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Attn offroad racers, what do you do for a shifter? (Seagull this means you)
pete wood - September 13th, 2004 at 07:22 PM

I have the poos with my shifter setup on the buggy.:cussing

What do you guys do for a shifter when ya use a kombi box?

I have a 002 (1800) box in mine if that makes any difference to it.

p.s. pics of ya setups would be great! ;)

[Edited on 14-9-2004 by pete wood]


bigbaja - September 14th, 2004 at 10:32 AM

we have scat ones $285
u2u me if your keen
brand new
terry


bigbaja - September 14th, 2004 at 10:32 AM

we have scat ones $285
u2u me if your keen
brand new
terry


11CAB - September 14th, 2004 at 09:56 PM

Is this what you mean?

http://www.offroadvw.net/bajawes/images/rebuild_coupling.jpg


pete wood - September 14th, 2004 at 11:16 PM

been there 11cab, didn't work.

Big baja, is that a system that is used in offroad buggys? any pics?


seagull - September 15th, 2004 at 01:50 AM

You need to get the grinder out for this and few machined up parts

I cut the shifter plate down in the tunnel plated it and weld it back up on a angle ,sight rise to the shift out put on the box .

The vw shift tube was removed & I made a 5/8 " solid one ( as I had bent a few shifting )>cut and welded the shifter cup on one end . The other end I got a uni from a steering shaft *vw super bug if I recall * machined the end so it would fit over the out put shaft on the box drilled and taped a hole ( grub screw ) in it for fixing , I cut the spline section off the shaft and welded this to the new shifter shaft so that just tightend with the bolt for removel .

clean the weld off .

Shifter guide *

I also made a bush * nylon * this fitted into a metal bush with a C clip to hold it there .I welded that to a bit of 50 x 10 flat bar, fed the new shifter shaft through it and fed it down the tunnel , cut a slot in the tunnel and twisted the shifter shaft so the flat bar came out the slot ( get a magnet on a pen ), fiited the uni up >made sure it shifted ok no bind any were in the system
I them ran a weld across the flat bar to hold it the tunnel ( get a hose ) to cool it plastic melts did this bit twice !


I hope this helps

Dont forget fuel lines / tank / battery
seagull


Desert Moose - September 15th, 2004 at 02:49 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by pete wood
been there 11cab, didn't work.

Big baja, is that a system that is used in offroad buggys? any pics?


G'day Pete,
what are you doing ??? bus box in to what a pipe buggy or a manx type buggy?

I use a jamer shifter (pic attached) but you can make your own if its a race car. If its a manx you can make a cable shifter if you can get a lathe or you can get an alloy thing like what 11cab's got or even some different ways....


Wag67 - September 15th, 2004 at 05:42 AM

In my old class 6 custom offroad made a similar box to the one above but it was open with a solid plate at the rear and bracing on the side. we then used a standard bettle shifter. worked well and never had any problems. ask terry to ask George C about it. It was cheap and strong


Desert Moose - September 15th, 2004 at 11:49 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Wag67
In my old class 6 custom offroad made a similar box to the one above but it was open with a solid plate at the rear and bracing on the side. we then used a standard bettle shifter. worked well and never had any problems. ask terry to ask George C about it. It was cheap and strong


If brad at COR can't help you I have a jig for making them as well.


BiX - September 15th, 2004 at 11:59 AM

Similar to the box setup but was open and very simple. only have afew issues
1- no sping in the system, so it just falls when it wants to (ok for a race car, as its normally in gear or the car is stopped)
2- the change was complete opposite, eg 1st was back and right, 4 was fowards and left
but, you could cover it in mud, run it through water and it would neve die!!!


seagull - September 15th, 2004 at 07:32 PM

how many $ chris for one of those in the photo


Desert Moose - September 15th, 2004 at 08:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by seagull
how many $ chris for one of those in the photo


$270


seagull - September 16th, 2004 at 01:24 AM

I have a better idea ? but need sleeeeeeeeeep , another long night in the shed .


Desert Moose - September 16th, 2004 at 01:53 AM

this is the one I have a jig for...... you need to pull the old shaft out, use the old shifter and shift plate , do a bit of welding but its cheap
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/Moose906/3.bmp


pete wood - September 16th, 2004 at 02:47 PM

already done something like that, only I am using a bit of beetle centre tunnel with the shift housing in it.

Problem is, the gate is really imprecise and it is hard to get into gear. It is an 1800 002 box, fully recoed.
this is the setup at the mo,

the linkage at the back is an excel steering shaft and unis, the rest is modded beetle stuff.

http://www.geocities.com/peterwood732/buggyproject/buggyproject6.html 

check the pics on this page


Desert Moose - September 16th, 2004 at 05:18 PM

I see your problem
http://www.geocities.com/peterwood732/buggyproject/gearshift1.JPG 

I will draw a pic to help you fix it


Baja Wes - September 16th, 2004 at 05:26 PM

Hi Pete,

you already know this, but anyway.

As Graham has posted I am running 2 shifter couplings welded on top of one another to step from the kombi box down into the tunnel

http://offroadvw.net/bajawes/images/rebuild_coupling.jpg

Total set-up looks like this

http://offroadvw.net/bajawes/images/rebuild/rear_assem.jpg

I am then running some sort of shifter that says INDY on the side, not sure what it is.

this is the only photo I seem to have handy

http://offroadvw.net/bajawes/images/pair_seats.jpg

Now when I first set it up it worked fine. All I had to do was adjust the reverse gate position, which is a matter of turning a screw on my shifter.

Then last week I put a new shift bush in the tunnel. A $5 bush that is a pain in the arse to get in there. But now it's in, the whole shifter and feel of the shift is back to new. Absolutely beautiful shifting.

A thought is maybe your gearbox is rooted, and giving you the dodgy gates. In which case spending money on a shifter won't help you any.


Desert Moose - September 16th, 2004 at 05:34 PM

That bush "Wes" is talking about is the problem with what you are doing now...... you don't have one, you need to have one if you are going to run the setup.


Baja Wes - September 16th, 2004 at 06:36 PM

You could certainly be right there mr moose, if there is no bush near the shifter then the shifter would certainly be vague.

I pulled my finger out and took a pic of my shifter.


11CAB - September 16th, 2004 at 07:11 PM

Yeah Wes, that was the only photo that I could find that showed it well. I didnt think you'd mind.


pete wood - September 17th, 2004 at 10:29 AM

could be the bush, but there is one in there at the mo. I hope it's not the gearbox, coz that was fully recoed before it was put in the car. someone said to me that the box might be tight coz it's newly recoed, any thoughts on that?


pete wood - September 17th, 2004 at 10:32 AM

where did you get that shifter from wes?


Baja Wes - September 17th, 2004 at 11:10 AM

I got the shifter out of a wrecked beetle, so I don't actually know what Brand it is. I'm sure the stock shifter would work fine in my car too, but haven't tried it.


nbturbo - September 17th, 2004 at 03:05 PM

Wes-what sort of car did you rat the seats from??


Baja Wes - September 17th, 2004 at 03:44 PM

I've been told they are from a Honda Prelude, but I'm not sure.