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type 1 brake callipers
tobys mate - July 29th, 2006 at 05:53 PM

hey all its me again just curiouse to know what type of beetle callipers all u sandard beetle equiped users use. do u use the one pin ones or the 2 pin ones was the diff between the 2 apart from the pins cause im at a point where i can use either........


68AutoBug - July 29th, 2006 at 06:25 PM

I believe the early cars used the single pin and the later cars all had the dual pins...

I've never read where one is better than the other...

Twin pin disc pads could be easier to buy than single pin...
I'm just guessing....
most manuals I have show the twin pin calipers...

they look identical to Me... other than the one or two holes...

Maybe check whether single pin brake pads are still available at Your Local VW shop....

I recently bought a set on ebay...

Lee

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1303Steve - July 29th, 2006 at 11:40 PM

Hi

As Lee said the early cars used single pin calipers. The twin pins were only used in 1972 on Superbugs, the L bug and 76 bug used single pin pad that was almost round. The twin pin pad is the largest so it would have the largest swept area, you can also use early Type 3 calipers, these have slightly larger pistons which will give you more bite and will bolt onto your stub axles.

Steve

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MISS VDUB - July 29th, 2006 at 11:59 PM

The single pin pads tend to wear on quite an angle, whereas the twin wears more evenly.
The single pin ones are readily available as are the twin pin type.
Hope this helps!
-Staggers.


seagull - July 30th, 2006 at 01:42 AM

God I love a girl with a spanner in her hand


VWCOOL - July 30th, 2006 at 10:57 AM

lol.. or some other tool

But I think staggers is a bloke

Anyhow, a good bolt-on upgrade for a beetle is the Type 3 twin-pin callipers and the larger T3 rear drums

[ Edited on 30-7-2006 by VWCOOL ]


tobys mate - July 30th, 2006 at 05:46 PM

will type 3 callipers fi with the beetle discs or will i have to change them as well


68AutoBug - July 30th, 2006 at 06:01 PM

Yes, I'd like to know that too..
very interesting to see the twin pins were actually larger...

I see Mick Motors has both pads in stock.

Did the late type 3s ever have oblong shape, long narrow pads?
My Son bought the calipers etc brand new, so they could be aftermarket too.

Many people use the type 3 rear brakes as they are much larger in diameter, and the drums are wider too.
I don't think a normal driver really needs larger rear brakes.
unless You have a high performance engine etc

I read recently of a VW owner in the US fitting discs on the front of His 78 Beetle and He said the difference was unbelieveable.. [No Beetles haddiscs in the USA]
He then put discs on the rear and noticed no difference at all.

Lee


MISS VDUB - July 30th, 2006 at 07:23 PM

Yeah I'm a bloke (I'm the beloved 'Volkswagenboy'!)
But Ash knows her stuff either way!
-Staggers.


1303Steve - July 30th, 2006 at 07:46 PM

Hi

The early type 3 used Beetle discs, the later ones used Type 4 discs which are slightly larger in diameter.

This is the late Type 3 pad.

Steve

http://www.clubvw.org.au/images/db2.jpg


tobys mate - July 31st, 2006 at 06:25 PM

so the type 3 pads are the same as the beetle ones i think its just the pisten diameter thats different? i think anyways i think the standard brakes are quite sufficient as the car weighs less being a buggy and all anyway who needs brakes they only slow u down right :yes:


pete wood - July 31st, 2006 at 06:48 PM

don't worry about monster front calipers. get your bias right...ie, lots of rear bias. type 3 drums will do the trick, and a bias valve in the front circuit.


tobys mate - July 31st, 2006 at 08:49 PM

why do u need bias towards the rear if u dont mind me asking.