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tow bar on cage
70BAJA - October 8th, 2006 at 08:00 AM

can people give me their methods on how to fit a towbar on my piped cage

pictures would help

thanks

neil


subibaja - October 8th, 2006 at 06:46 PM

try this
its a hayman reece style

custom off road 33564356


beetle from hell - October 11th, 2006 at 06:48 PM

Mine is as such...
Welded to the lower bar

http://photos1.blogger.com/img/80/6567/640/100_2422.jpg


70BAJA - October 11th, 2006 at 07:03 PM

thanks beetle
sorry to be a pain you dont have a closer view of it

neil


shaihulud - October 12th, 2006 at 04:15 PM

How is your cage attached to the car? If it is attached to the rear shock absorber towers, be careful as they are cast iron which can easily break under the shock loads of a bouncing trailer.


Unless your cage is connected to the pan or rear torsion bar tubes you may not have enough strength for the pulling loads and unless it is triangulated to more than thin bodywork, it will not be able to resist up and down loads as the tow bar bounces.

I recently took a tow bar off a 73 Beetle because it was attached at the rear to the bumper only. It was simply not strong enough for me to trust it. The holes where it was attached to the thin bodywork were oval shaped, the others on the bumper attachments were OK.

Tow bars are a bit like seat belts. Over engineer the whole assembly.


mackaymanx - October 12th, 2006 at 04:27 PM

The shock towers are cast steel not cast iron


70BAJA - October 12th, 2006 at 06:32 PM

the cage is attached to both the shock tower and the torsion tubes. its also attached to the engine horns. so fitting a towbar that can tow a 6x4 box trailer shouldn't be a drama:smilegrin:

having the tow bar attached to the old bumper bar only is a drama waiting to happen


beetle from hell - October 12th, 2006 at 09:00 PM

This is the closest i have got on hand. If you want closer i can take a pic this weekend


http://photos1.blogger.com/hello/202/4410/1024/RIMG0158.jpg


70BAJA - October 12th, 2006 at 09:05 PM

thanks beetle;)
what sort of weight have you towed with this one


MickH - October 12th, 2006 at 09:19 PM

This is like the one Terry is talking about (subibaja).Class 4 hitch.Obviously the tongue is not in when the picture was taken.I've towed a 6x4 box trailer with a 360 kg go kart in it for 250km on the highway.Everything is still together.


70BAJA - October 12th, 2006 at 09:37 PM

thanks mick looks like the easyest to fit so far and looks like a good strenght one too:thumb

looks like i might have to find an old hayman reece bar to cut up:smilegrin::smilegrin:

neil


beetle from hell - October 13th, 2006 at 08:43 AM

Thats a pretty nice setup. Might have to consider a change over.
Personallythe only thing i have towed is a 6x4 with sides and a few bits and peices in it. Only a few km.
It came with the car so not sure how much towing the PO did. And i dont believe the cage is anchored enough to support towing much weight.

Cheers
Ant

Edit: Quick question, are my images ciming up? they wont load for me. I assume they but they just wont load. Thanks

[ Edited on 12-10-2006 by beetle from hell ]


shaihulud - October 13th, 2006 at 10:54 AM

Thank you mackaymanx. I've always thought that the rear shocker towers are iron. I'ts good to know that they are steel.


Baja Wes - October 13th, 2006 at 12:54 PM

I run a hayman reece too. Mine is a lot more complicated due to the V6.

http://www.offroadvw.net/bajawes/V6_baja/images/29th/towhitch.jpg

http://www.offroadvw.net/bajawes/V6_baja/images/22_7/v6_frame.jpg


70BAJA - October 13th, 2006 at 03:09 PM

wes where does your bar attach to:?:


Baja Wes - October 13th, 2006 at 08:49 PM

I got bars going everywhere :)

http://www.offroadvw.net/bajawes/V6_baja/images/friday/radiatormounting.jpg

http://www.offroadvw.net/bajawes/V6_baja/images/24th/bradwelding.jpg

http://www.offroadvw.net/bajawes/V6_baja/images/24th/rearhornbraces.jpg

http://www.offroadvw.net/bajawes/V6_baja/images/24th/rearhoop.jpg

and the aluminium part of the cage bolts to the hayman reece part (on top) and then goes back to the shock towers.


70BAJA - October 13th, 2006 at 09:16 PM

WOW thats one web you have weaved:crazy: