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spray on rust
kroozzn63 - February 21st, 2004 at 08:58 AM

Hey Peter or any Rat Fancier out there is there such a thing as spray on rust some of the rats in
the uk mag ultra vw look very much like they have
it on ,Plus stuff sprayed on the glass to look like
fungi ,Which hence looks Funky


twoguns - February 21st, 2004 at 10:29 AM

ive alwyas wondered if you could use the stuff i have seen used in those home reno shows. you paint one coast and then wet it down and whalla you have a rust effect....


helbus - February 21st, 2004 at 11:54 AM

Isn't it amazing. 'Spray on rust' I spend all my life trying to make cars shiny and there are blighters out there rustin' 'em up! ;)


Anthiron - February 21st, 2004 at 12:32 PM

before i say this i must first explain that i am in no way against rat look VW's in fact some of the best bugs and buses i have seen have been rats.......however i think that the way people are changing nicely restored cars into rust buckets so that they can say they have a rat is kinda wrong.....if u find a bug thats under the whether and u maybe clear coat it and get some nice wheels and lower it but keep it looking ratty then thats fine but when people take decent dubs and wreck decent panels and shiny paint with things like spray on rust or dent metal or replace panels with some rusty ones from the wreckers to create a rat from what once was a nice looking car it pains me:cry


twoguns - February 21st, 2004 at 12:36 PM

hey anthiron, i would agree with you on that. go and find a rat and save it accordingly, not go and dust up a perfectly good ride...;)


kroozzn63 - February 21st, 2004 at 01:57 PM

I agree rebuild a vw any style im talking perfect rust preventive perfect or original panels treated against rust with rust colour on top clear coat so u can allways turn back to the shiny side
Hey Helbus "nice and shiny "


twoguns - February 21st, 2004 at 03:30 PM

anyway, i think this is the effect you get using the stuff...
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/146428.jpg


kroozzn63 - February 21st, 2004 at 03:53 PM


VWFOOL - February 21st, 2004 at 07:10 PM

fully, dont wreck nice shiny cars, its not right


Anthiron - February 21st, 2004 at 09:31 PM

i take it that u were being sarcastic then VWfool?


Peter Leonard - February 22nd, 2004 at 06:34 PM

mebbe we should enlist the help of *shudder* helbus for this one ;)
not toooo sure of the longevity of the process, but spray primer (rust red flavour), covered in matt finish to ease the porosity probs should work. Have yet to come across a non gloss (matt) that's suitable for outdoos tho. "bondall" makes a uv resistant satin marine varnish, which would be promising :thumb
bit of artistic license and a couple of looks at where actual rust appears would help to create the look of rust while retaining the protection from same. Helbus?:thumb


helbus - February 22nd, 2004 at 09:25 PM

<closes eyes, turns head and lifts nose>

I agree with the rat vehicle being made from a vehicle dragged out of somewhere. Like a rat out of a drainpipe.

This has gone too far. I am going to play with my Meguires polish range and bag of rags and clean the drivetrain & underbody of my showcar. It has some dust on the shiny two pack paint on the suspension, and some alloy components have less than a mirror finish.

Have fun and enjoy.

:P

[Edited on 22-2-2004 by Helbus]


Peter Leonard - February 22nd, 2004 at 11:49 PM

awww come on pete... surely the knob polishing can wait until you've answered our liddle tiny weeny questions :D

don't go all hoity now...:P


Herbie - February 25th, 2004 at 12:52 AM

You can get a very believable Rust look by using Shellac, just spray it on using a squirter bottle or even just dab it on with a brush and while it is wet crumble some Shellac flakes over the top so they stick but will only Partially Dissolve, spray a mist of water on it as it is still wet to get that streaking and rotting look, build it up in layers, but let each layer dry totally first.
I Started doing this to my 67 Kombie But then Changed my mind as I realised people didnt get the Joke, they just thought I had a very rusty Shitty old Kombie, So I stopped, And as you can see in the picture, I had only done a light start on it all, If done fully, you can hardly pick it from real rust even up close.
It will wash off with metholated spirits and a scourer or steel wool, but its hard work.

Give it a test on a scrap panel and you will see what I mean.

Cheers Tony


Peter Leonard - February 25th, 2004 at 05:45 AM

nice work, Tony!:o

how well does the shellac trick stand up to rain hail and shine?


pyr0 - February 25th, 2004 at 09:58 AM

hmmm this stuff sounds interesting......where can it be brought ??

and also how does it stand up to the weather ??

:P


Peter Leonard - February 25th, 2004 at 05:36 PM

we sell it at my hardware store. most hardware stores should have it, in 250g, 500g or kilo bags, looks like dark yellowy brown semi transparent flakes. mix with metho and paint on for old fashioned varnish:thumb


VWFOOL - February 25th, 2004 at 06:20 PM

anthiron
no i was not being sarcastic at all, if u hav seen my car before in the flesh u will know it wasnt nice and shiny at all...
i dont think a nice restored car should be abused, and i certainly wouldnt do that to my car after it was restored.

i like the look u hav achieved on ur bus tony, great job:thumb


bugboymatt - February 25th, 2004 at 06:55 PM

It does give a good look. would be fun to do before you got a car stripped back for respray !!
Totally covered and old rust looking !!


Herbie - February 25th, 2004 at 08:38 PM

Seems fine, I have had no problems


Cruzin in a Golf - February 27th, 2004 at 08:33 PM

How many yellow stickers do you guys want? :puke
Cruzin in a Golf


toby@bitswap.com - February 28th, 2004 at 01:10 AM

or you could just leave it to the elements of weather and time over a period of a few years so it is not a fabricated rat, there are some which are made to look crap, there are some which just are crap, then there are some buses which look so mad that there is no way you could replicate it... i think the word rat look came from a german mag, where a narly hot rat car was featured, the term rat was abrieviated from the german word Ratten' which the article called RAT.. ?? but the word stuck and filtered throughout the world to create a style/ fad/ whatever... just like cal look/ german look/ resto cal ect ect i'm just waiting for the tastless look to come out, i have a shed full of nasty's i could utilise :)