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How to build a Volks Rod
64vwmark - May 23rd, 2005 at 05:28 AM

Found a cool article in Vw trends (some may have already seen it).

http://www.vwtrendsweb.com/features/0405vwt_hotrod/ 


HotRodMatt - May 23rd, 2005 at 08:43 AM

How to turn a do-it-yourself creative individual sub-scene into another cookie-cutter "look".


bajachris88 - May 23rd, 2005 at 08:56 AM

They look mad!!! Would it be legal and able to be certified to remove the fender's though?:mad:


greenbug70 - May 23rd, 2005 at 02:51 PM

How good do they look in paticular those Fred Hidalgo jobs


E - May 23rd, 2005 at 08:08 PM

What's wrong with making the rod accesible to the masses? Wouldn't it be a good thing as opposed to a bad?

I'm sure the only people who would benefit would be the inviduals you speak of who aren't too mechanically competent, why should they be denied this knowledge?


HotRodMatt - May 23rd, 2005 at 08:38 PM

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Originally posted by E
What's wrong with making the rod accesible to the masses?


Because it becomes a cancer of sameness as per cal-look.

The whole point is that there is no "look" or rules. Individuality and enginuity are what it is about.


barls - May 23rd, 2005 at 08:45 PM

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Originally posted by mynameischris88
They look mad!!! Would it be legal and able to be certified to remove the fender's though?:mad:

no the adrs state that it has to have guards even if they are the bolt on style like on the super sevens


bajachris88 - May 23rd, 2005 at 09:55 PM

That sux balls so bad. These adrs can be so frustrating and constricting.

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barls - May 23rd, 2005 at 10:14 PM

but they are there for safety plus this would fall in to there icv catagory which means it would have to meet the current adrs


WABaja - May 24th, 2005 at 03:50 AM

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Originally posted by barls
this would fall in to there icv catagory which means it would have to meet the current adrs





What makes you think that...???


barls - May 24th, 2005 at 04:59 PM

cause its exactly the same as grafting a kombi body rear end on a bug as its a major modification of the body it has to comply with the latest adrs. am i wrong????


HotRodMatt - May 24th, 2005 at 05:35 PM

Not necessarilly barls.

With certain conditions the wheel base can be extended and the body dramatically changed and still remain a modified production.

Hell even a mid mounted V8 in stretched bus didn't have to go ICV.

If you go doing things without an engineer consulting during the plan and build you might end up with something that has to be ICV. If you bring them in early they'll tell you where to go with what and avoid it.


barls - May 24th, 2005 at 05:39 PM

thanks matt i knew it was a grey area only cause the old man and i are looking at building the bug bus but this is what stopped us for the moment, well that and chaos' rebuild btw he should be back from the painters next week.


HotRodMatt - May 24th, 2005 at 06:07 PM

barls.... email me about the bug bus.... might know something for you...


barls - May 24th, 2005 at 06:20 PM

done you now have email


bajachris88 - May 24th, 2005 at 08:34 PM

Thats right, i was told that as well about the adrs, and ICVs.

Apparently if you shorten the chassis (like with a buggy), its classed as an ICV. But if you lengthen the chassis (like a limo) its ok.

I don't see the logic in it though, i mean, either way you a building a whole new vehicle. You would think that lengthening the chassis to make a limo would be more concerning than shortening, cause it would need some heck of strength to hold the chassis flat, and to not sag in the middle.

Well, in these cases, the best thing to do is consult an engineer. What type of engineer? Mechanical?


Dasdubber - May 31st, 2005 at 01:20 PM

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Originally posted by mynameischris88
Well, in these cases, the best thing to do is consult an engineer. What type of engineer? Mechanical?



Automotive engineer


Bugs - July 3rd, 2005 at 09:42 AM

I know (from personal experience) that NSW and ACT rego requirements for fenderless VW's is as follows:

The vehicle must have guards that cover the width of the tyres.
The use of Hot Rod (cycle) style guards is acceptable provided the front guards cover 3 quarters of the circumference of the wheel and must be no more than 300mm from the ground at the rear of the guard. The same should apply to the rear wheels, however my engineer request that 180 degrees of the rear wheel circumference be covered again having no more than 300mm gap between the ground and the bottom of the guard at the rear.

These guards must also be able to move at the front with the steering.

Hope this helps.

BTW - I have for sale some guards and brackets that do not cover the required circumferences but can be used post inspection and look cool. They also give you a good idea of how to make the guards meet the ADR's and with a bit of tin plate this can be done using these brackets quite easily. I had other issues with my car which resulted in me having to remove these parts otherwise they would still be on. Asking $80 for the lot, buyer pays freight ph 0439 45 3399.


kustomkool - July 6th, 2005 at 10:39 PM

my ride will be driven to shows on a permit and will not run gaurds.I just think it takes the hardcore out of it.


decked dubby - July 7th, 2005 at 12:19 AM

You rule kustomkool!!!


64vwmark - July 7th, 2005 at 06:56 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by mynameischris88
Thats right, i was told that as well about the adrs, and ICVs.

Apparently if you shorten the chassis (like with a buggy), its classed as an ICV. But if you lengthen the chassis (like a limo) its ok.

I don't see the logic in it though, i mean, either way you a building a whole new vehicle. You would think that lengthening the chassis to make a limo would be more concerning than shortening, cause it would need some heck of strength to hold the chassis flat, and to not sag in the middle.



In the article one car has a standard chassis with a shortened body. With a standard chassis you won't be classed as a ICV. They shorten the body behind the B pillar (behind the doors). I think it looks alright too.


kustomkool - July 8th, 2005 at 11:10 PM

No decked you rule buddy.And where the fuck you been kat...


decked dubby - July 8th, 2005 at 11:34 PM

Dude i've been flat out busy with work. Just started back on airbagging my beetle so thought i better jump back into this whole vw thing again.


kustomkool - July 11th, 2005 at 10:32 PM

Baggin a bug hey mad shit.Im rodding a bug as you probably gathered.


kustomkool - July 11th, 2005 at 10:37 PM

speakin of bagin gonna run in the notch looking the custom coachworks kit with the narrowed type 1 beam a mate in the states runs in in a squareback ...looks the shiat...


zayus - August 26th, 2005 at 09:37 PM

Getting back to fenders & registration. Is it posible to have a VW Rod classified as a Hot Rod? I was told a long time ago that Hot Rods have have different regulations to "normal" street cars. Man, cause there a plenty of Hot Rods running around with no fenders.

Zayus


WABaja - August 27th, 2005 at 03:25 AM

No.. Most states in Oz only recognise Pre 1948 cars as "Hot Rods"..:smirk:
If you want to cut up a Pre 48 Beetle, you might get away with it,
but if you get murdered in your bed by Purists Sceaming something about Zwit or Heb'
or some such obscure terminology..
Don't come back from the dead to tell us you weren't warned...!!!!:yes:


sneak_e - August 30th, 2005 at 01:24 AM

'BUGS' - how is your ride going? Got any pics to send us of it cruising the streets of the ACT?