hey guys im looking at getting a '74 cheap and i wanna put my 2276 that ive got in bits into it . is there any advantage over my '68 that ive got . the '74 has drum fronts and rear which will be changed to discs and t3 rear drums. is the '74 better in any way ? i know its heavier
cheers brenton

Is it s 74 super? drums sounds like its a 74 std with swinger rear?

No

Its got a Strut front end :puke stick with the torsion bars Front ends LOL

Mate there all good to race if you have the chance Go for it

hey guys sorry i forgot to mention it was a std , so the gear box is stronger ? , how much power can they handle is your care full , im building a 2276 i herd around 150 is the max if you drive really carefull ?
cheers brenton

matey, 'race' and 'drive carefully' don't exist in the same sentnce

i want the car to handle well and then once i get some more dollars new gbox to handle the power. thats what i meant . so i would have to drive carefully on the old gearbox till i can really get on it with a stronger gearbox and axles .
cheers brenton

really i want to know if i should fix up a '74 im getting into a race and keep my '68 low or should i just fix and sell the '74 ? i was thinking it wouldnt matter if i cut the rear to tie the horns in etc . wheres i dont really want to do that to my 68
cheers brenton

Um, no-one but you can answer that question

alrite so the conclusion is that the '74 is similar to a '68 except it has a alt and is heavier. but stronger and shorter gearbox.
cheers brenton

If your going to go Racing seriously i would be over hauling the gearbox especially if its been around the clock a few times .

The front discs wont be too hard to change to a later model theres a little more work in changing the rears

Good luck let us know how the racing goes

hey man any beetle is good for racing, but which model is personal preference.

Me ive owned and driven the torsion bugs and raced one at a street sprint and just recently bought a 75 l bug and for me id preferr throwing around the l-bug.

More work required to get an L to handle, plus they're heavier

Hi

Torsion bars front end cars are OK for the sort of racing where you don't need suspension, like hill climbs or drags where you just need the front end to rare up to transfer weight, but anything that requires high speed finesse, go struts.

If your talking about supers being heavier, I've done jobbies that weigh more than the difference in weight

Steve

[ Edited on 14-2-2007 by 1303Steve ]

Don't need suspension in hillclimbs WTF...............I think you need to race in a hillclimb !!!!

only stirring C..T.., look who bit

I'd love to see a 90kg terd!

got a picture of Dave?

hehehehhe

surely seeings as supers have struts/irs they would handle that little bit better??

yeah, kinda, sorta, but it's more difficult to get appropriate settings into the front end

Brenton, did you get any further in thoughts on '74 L-bug vs Ball Joint fronted beetle?

Brutus has ball-joint front & 4-joint rear, but that was a choice made many years ago, and it was specifically bought to get that set-up. At that time, prevailing opinions were against Struts for track work (they couldn't readily be lowererd/ stiffened etc. then) but times have changed obviously!
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Sorry just re-read & see it is a standard '74, suppose it is a 1300 with swing axle rear. If so both your cars have the same suspension & brake set-up - so n ot much to choose, just pick the 'less nice' car for racing! But, better to sell one & get a better type for racing? eg S or L bug if you like struts, or semi-auto or '76 if you prefer front beam. EITHER way I'd go for a 4-joint rear unless you're only doing drags. I'm not sure if it's worth changing bakes for drags or hillclimbs. (Do discs really weigh much less anyway?) If you're doing longer/sprints could be a good idea.

[ Edited on 21-2-2007 by BRUTUS ]

hey I am only 83 Kgs not a F A T as you boys LOL

And when was the last time Eileen let you on the track steve