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Getting slicks under stock guards
1916baja - August 1st, 2013 at 07:59 PM

So I want to get 6" slicks on 5.5" rims under stock guards on my 1970 beetle. I have already put short axles in so it should make it the same width as an early bug. What 4 lug rims with what offset and back spacing are people using? I'm sure there are a few people on here doing it... I'm not making steelies as the point of the excersise is to get lighter wheels. Sprintstars, brms??? I'd love to see some pics! :cool:


55slug - August 2nd, 2013 at 05:07 AM

What about 914 Fuchs ? Worked good for me with a 215/65 Dot legal.


1916baja - August 2nd, 2013 at 06:24 AM

I can't see that photo.... Is it just me?


beetleboyjeff - August 2nd, 2013 at 06:48 AM

Nope. I cant see it on either of my computers either.


matberry - August 2nd, 2013 at 09:17 AM

You want to choose a light mag, just because they are alloy doesn't mean they're light. I think you'll find the knock-off BRM's to be heavier than your steelies.


1916baja - August 2nd, 2013 at 09:32 AM

Ooh I doubt it Matt. My steelies are just as heavy as the wheels on my Baja! I'll weigh one when I get them off.


55slug - August 2nd, 2013 at 11:24 AM

I dont know what happened there, I didnt actually attach a photo, have done now - But just weighed one with the tyre - 14.9kgs on the bathroom scales, not really sure how acurate they are... rims from memory are about 6.5 kgs each. Notice that the honda is about to lose.


1916baja - August 2nd, 2013 at 02:50 PM

Aren't they gas burners??


Sides - August 2nd, 2013 at 04:19 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1916baja
Aren't they gas burners??


Optical illusion in the photo I think Mick...


matberry - August 2nd, 2013 at 04:31 PM

Burners are 5x130, they are 4x130 914 wheels, close to burners....but different ;)


1916baja - August 2nd, 2013 at 04:57 PM

Cool. All this wheel talk is confusing me


Sides - August 2nd, 2013 at 05:00 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1916baja
Cool. All this wheel talk is confusing me


Ahh, well - google is your friend !!!

http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/914_wheel_types/914_wheel_types.htm 

And remember you did ask "how" Mick...

;)


1916baja - August 2nd, 2013 at 06:05 PM

He he... I just want somebody to tell me what wheels to use! :smilegrin:


sander288 - August 2nd, 2013 at 06:26 PM

centerlines would suit the bill; but be more expensive than others

or you could look into "minilite" wheels, not genuine but performance wheel's version; 6 inch width and relatively light. The actual magnesium version are way lighter but again you pay for it.

http://www.performancewheels.com.au/Home/Wheels.asp?theGroup=S&Cat=Motor+...


mactaylor - August 2nd, 2013 at 09:36 PM

OG gas burners are light as but they are 5.5 wide.


Dak-A-Tak - August 2nd, 2013 at 10:45 PM

One thing to do ( will help with cost of wheels ) change stud pattern to chev or ford , much bigger chose of wheels .
Give me a call , 0409004767, we can run the tape over Rods car , I have couple leeds for you .
Cheers .
Just spotted ,

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1501410 


humpty - August 2nd, 2013 at 11:42 PM

Most every conventional aftermarket VW wheel is 5 or 5.5" wide.... Not wide enough for a 215/60-15 DOT M&H or 26" slick... M&H say 6" rim is ideal... I know of others running the narrower wheel with pretty good results, as the side wall has the required bulge.... If possibly a little too much bulge. :kiss:

And like Pete suggested, they are pretty heavy too.... If you can jump for Chevy pattern brakes, the wheel choices do open up, but your setup costs will rise... That's why I found those 205pcd rims to match my ercos.... I'm running with what I have, as I can't afford the bling option, and for now, what I have will do the job... But 205pcd brakes are in the future budget!

And you won't have any issue getting the above mentioned tyres under the stock guards....

I can tell you this though.... Lighter wheels and tyres make a massive different in the way the car behaves out of the hole, and an equally massive improvement in stability in the top end.


1916baja - August 3rd, 2013 at 08:12 AM

Thanks guys, Pete, I'll do some measurements on my car and give you a buzz when I know more about what I need. Cheers.


Dak-A-Tak - August 3rd, 2013 at 03:07 PM

I agree with Humpty , 6inch rim is they way to go with those tyres. You don't have to step upto mega brakes , to changed your stud pattern .
You could go back to wide 5 drums too .


humpty - August 6th, 2013 at 02:27 PM

Out of the box here a bit, but have you thought about converting to Porsche PCD anf running some 6" Fuchs?... Genuine Cookies or Fuchs can be reasonably cheap and as Pete said, a redrill of the standard drums is easy to do.... Genuine Porsche rims can be pretty light if you select the right ones.


1916baja - August 6th, 2013 at 03:09 PM

Yeah, i was talking to rod about doing just that the other day. I need to do some measuring.


ian.mezz - August 6th, 2013 at 04:21 PM

peirside advertise in VWMA
maybe their shipping prices have come down.???
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http://www.piersideparts.net/ER5190356.html 
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having said that we got ours off of paradise motor sports.


1303Steve - August 6th, 2013 at 06:42 PM

Hi

there is some V Force wheels for sale now, they are very light.

Steve