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New crank in and almost ready for Warwick
Menangler - June 23rd, 2008 at 05:41 PM

After trashing my crank and flywheel at Portland this year, I have been busy in the shed doing the nessasay modifications to my old case so I can run a stock 2.1 WBXer 76mm stroke crank with bolt on full weight flywheel, now that shouldn't come off!!.

Shimo at Dunhams cut the rear main bearing saddle so I can run the std WBXer 3 piece bearing, all the other bearings on the T3 crank are the same as Beetle, I just had to modify the oil gallery for the bearing and make thrust washer locating tangs in the case with a small dremell and it is ready to go in.

The engine assembles just like a normal crank with a bit of care not to loose the inside thrust washer out of its locating tang, once the end float is set and the flywheel is on this in not a problem.

The engine is now all assembled and in the car with just a couple of small items to be sorted.

Here are a couple of photos of the WBXer crank in a T1 case, you will see the crank is not counterweighted :lol:, T3 cranks are a lot heavier and stronger than a stock T1 crank and don't suffer from crank flex, the bearings on the engine I pulled the crank out of had done over 200,000 Ks and the main bearings were still good enough to go another 200,000, and the case was perfect.


Brad - June 23rd, 2008 at 05:46 PM

Sweet ... now it just needs a buggy body to go in :>


dangerous - June 23rd, 2008 at 05:48 PM

How hard will you rev it David?


Menangler - June 23rd, 2008 at 05:53 PM

It will probably see 7000-7500 rpm like the old crank did. time will tell!!


colin - June 23rd, 2008 at 09:43 PM

Hpoe to see you there Dave,wouldn,t be a drag meet with out you.

Cheers Col


1303Steve - June 23rd, 2008 at 10:05 PM

Hi

You can buy 200mm flywheels to bolt straight onto the T4/WBX crank now from CIP or Jake Raby.

I think the WBX was redlined at 6250 rpm from the factory.

I was going to dowel in between the flywheel bolts if I had any issues on my WBX.

Steve


dangerous - June 24th, 2008 at 06:18 AM

I did a counterweighted WBX crank and the 5 dowel set up for a racer some years ago.
It held up very well without a wedge mate but he used some pretty spiffy bolts I recall.

I read in europe a fellow using a stock 69 crank and light parts
expects reasonable life from his 1603cc engine
using as much as 9000. (n/a ran 11.58!!)

Although the short stroke and light reciprocating parts helps a hell of a lot.


VWFREAK - June 24th, 2008 at 10:53 AM

Great stuff Dave, goodt to see you back in action.


pete wood - June 24th, 2008 at 03:13 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by dangerous
I did a counterweighted WBX crank and the 5 dowel set up for a racer some years ago.
It held up very well without a wedge mate but he used some pretty spiffy bolts I recall.

I read in europe a fellow using a stock 69 crank and light parts
expects reasonable life from his 1603cc engine
using as much as 9000. (n/a ran 11.58!!)

Although the short stroke and light reciprocating parts helps a hell of a lot.


love to see the parts list for that motor... :yes:

I guess he was using aftermarket rods and special pistonies too. Wonder what the heads looked like?


Menangler - June 24th, 2008 at 05:14 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1303Steve
Hi

You can buy 200mm flywheels to bolt straight onto the T4/WBX crank now from CIP or Jake Raby.

I think the WBX was redlined at 6250 rpm from the factory.

I was going to dowel in between the flywheel bolts if I had any issues on my WBX.

Steve


Rod Penrose also has them in stock, stock weight and lights ones, that is where I bought mine from.

I am running everything heavy this time, I will see if it helps off the line with my tall 1st gear.

I am thinking a bit of inertia will help, as I usually leave the line at around 5000 rpm and shift at 7000, once it is up around those revs it stays there and it's just a quick flat change up to the next gear.

It would be different with a roundy roundy track car, where you need the reciprocating lightness for quick power on and off in corners.


dangerous - June 24th, 2008 at 08:53 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by pete wood
Quote:
Originally posted by dangerous
I did a counterweighted WBX crank and the 5 dowel set up for a racer some years ago.
It held up very well without a wedge mate but he used some pretty spiffy bolts I recall.

I read in europe a fellow using a stock 69 crank and light parts
expects reasonable life from his 1603cc engine
using as much as 9000. (n/a ran 11.58!!)

Although the short stroke and light reciprocating parts helps a hell of a lot.


love to see the parts list for that motor... :yes:

I guess he was using aftermarket rods and special pistonies too. Wonder what the heads looked like?


http://cal-look.no/lounge/index.php/topic,3257.270.html 


Craig Torrens - June 24th, 2008 at 11:11 PM

Nice.................a semi factory stroker :D


dangerous - July 23rd, 2008 at 06:16 PM

Got it going yet Dave?


Menangler - July 23rd, 2008 at 06:35 PM

Yes Dave, in and running, although I have only driven i out of the shed.


pete wood - July 24th, 2008 at 12:12 PM

ta dave


vw54 - July 24th, 2008 at 01:19 PM

Beck

looking good


humpty - July 28th, 2008 at 01:08 AM

Was thinking about redoing my 1776 with one of these cranks, so I'm very keen to see how it goes...
Best of luck with it Dave...