front engine notch
nsuwift - June 5th, 2010 at 12:45 PM
Anyone know anything about this car. Looks like an interesting set up. I wonder if it is a vw engine.
typethreeking - June 5th, 2010 at 01:05 PM
it looks like a vw engine in the picture, if you look close you can see the cylinder head on the right of the photo, would be a cool ride..
71-BEETLE-SEDAN - June 5th, 2010 at 01:11 PM
Lack of radiator also would make it seem like an aircooler
13bwagon - June 5th, 2010 at 06:14 PM
that is so dam kool
vlad01 - June 5th, 2010 at 08:45 PM
thats so dam weird? why in the front?
tail shaft is a design flaw !. lol
71-BEETLE-SEDAN - June 5th, 2010 at 09:50 PM
Probably to stop larger wheelies and also much more room up front.
QuikBug - June 6th, 2010 at 06:17 PM
Great looking notch, looks like a US car big $$$$$.
Engine in the front, auto with a strong diff makes lots of sence to me.
nsuwift - June 6th, 2010 at 06:19 PM
also more airflow to turbo being at the front
typethreeking - June 7th, 2010 at 06:21 PM
trannys would last longer too. Looks like a well set up car the way it launches off the line
LIFE IN THE LOW LANE - June 7th, 2010 at 08:29 PM
Not to mention a rather large snail....
Anybody know what times etc??
pete wood - June 8th, 2010 at 10:10 AM
front engined cars are faster than rear engined when it comes to the big end of drag racing. the quickest rear motor sedans (beetles) are doing low 8s
at the mo and we think that is fast. similar sized front engined cars are doing 7s. it's all about weight transfere.
ttriebler - June 8th, 2010 at 11:18 AM
ER no they aren't. Top Fuel is the fastest drag car category and they have the engine in the back.
JVLRacing - June 8th, 2010 at 02:46 PM
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ER no they aren't. Top Fuel is the fastest drag car category and they have the engine in the back.
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I think u will find that pete is talkin about sedans not rails!
Sides - June 8th, 2010 at 02:59 PM
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ER no they aren't. Top Fuel is the fastest drag car category and they have the engine in the back.
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I think u will find that pete is talkin about sedans not rails!
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And besides... aren't Top Fuel cars actually mid engined, with the engine sitting forward of the rear axle ???
Wouldn't be surprised if the engine on a Top Fuel car sits about the same distance forward of the rear axle as what it does in a normal front
engined, rear wheel drive sedan...
pete wood - June 8th, 2010 at 04:44 PM
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ER no they aren't. Top Fuel is the fastest drag car category and they have the engine in the back.
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I think u will find that pete is talkin about sedans not rails!
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Yep. Rails/top fuelers are mid engined, which btw makes a big difference as you add more hp. Even top fuelers lift the front wheels off the line,
which is why VW drag cars have such issues with wheels as the speed comes up.
http://www.oceanstreetvideo.com/download1.html
Scroll down the page. Listen to what Ron Lumus says about Chris Bubetz pro turbo car pulling 9s and you'll see what I mean.
ttriebler - June 8th, 2010 at 07:38 PM
Quite right you are, Top fuellers are mid engine as opposed to rear engine, silly me was busy thinking about 'in relation to driver'.
Getting back to the OP talking about front engine, then that's actually not the ideal location (although very awesome) If you use the drag racing
analogy again, look at Nitro Funny Car v Nitro Top Fuel. Same motors, same power, same clutch and diff (no gearbox as they are direct drive).
Nitro funny cars are front engined and top fuellers are mid engined. Nitro funny cars typically run 0.3 sec slower than top fuellers. So does that
mean the ideal engine location for weight transfer is just in front of the drive wheels, so the weight is transferred onto them on launch?
I guess that makes the Porsche Boxter the ultimate drag car...???? Hell I would LOVE to turbo the bejezus out of one of those things....
humpty - June 9th, 2010 at 08:33 PM
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Getting back to the OP talking about front engine, then that's actually not the ideal location (although very awesome) If you use the drag racing
analogy again, look at Nitro Funny Car v Nitro Top Fuel. Same motors, same power, same clutch and diff (no gearbox as they are direct drive).
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Its restricted by class.... Much like Rodney's (Penrose) new car.... It's closer to a Sedan ('doorslammer') spec machine, which is restricted by
such rules as opening doors with internal and external handles, full suspension with at least one shock per wheel... These rules also stipulate engine
placement.... Front or rear only.... Driving the rear wheels.... No mid mounting is allowed.... Also.... As stated earlier, by others....
Transmissions and other related driveline components are stronger than VW parts, cheaper to replace and easier to source....
It makes perfect sense if you playing in the big sandbox.
SuperOwen - June 10th, 2010 at 12:40 AM
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And besides... aren't Top Fuel cars actually mid engined, with the engine sitting forward of the rear axle ???
Wouldn't be surprised if the engine on a Top Fuel car sits about the same distance forward of the rear axle as what it does in a normal front
engined, rear wheel drive sedan...
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Fuellers actually run the engine pretty close to the rear axle, even closer than the alcohol dragsters as they dont run a transmission, only the
clutch can, cannon and coupler. Looking at my (miniature!) funny car it definatly has a lot more tailshaft than any of the fuel dragsters I played
with.
The advantage dragsters have is hooking in the early part of the run, mainly due to the flexibility of the chassis which funny cars lack. Funny cars
have better aero at the top end though.
What has this got to do with VW's though? Sweet F*&^ All!!!
dcuplover - June 10th, 2010 at 03:08 PM
I posted this to the UAC site and got a few answers about the car. It seems that the car has some issues with going to the right when launching and
such has hit/scuffed the wall at least once. It also spun at the top end from a combination of aggressive breaking and a bump in the track. As more
details come up I will post them. Nothing seems to be recent so the car may be siting gathering dust at this moment. Try the site:
http://www.ultimateaircooled.com/simplemachinesforum/index.php
great site for the West Coast drag racing world (some East coast stuff gets discussed).
nsuwift - June 13th, 2010 at 08:10 PM
heres a video of this notch it as at 2:33 in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCmo7ilOofc