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What HP do i need?
T25Turbo - February 23rd, 2012 at 08:31 PM

A friend of mine has a Valiant Charger that has 270 rwhp - how many rwhp or fly hp do i need in my 1970 / 66 chassis beetle to beat his ass? it has a pretty sweet stock 1600 with swingarm box.

I know I could do the calcs myself but I thought I would throw it out there to hear some entertaining answers.

I have no cash for this at the moment as usual but it remains a dream that sits in my shed and does the odd bit of grass circle work on my new acreage in Katherine NT.

ps heaps of room for old dubs and free dub parts if anyone needs to store them or wants them gone!!! i.e donate them to my cause. ;-)


whathaveidone - February 23rd, 2012 at 08:42 PM

271


westi - February 23rd, 2012 at 09:58 PM

130-150 will do it


vw54 - February 24th, 2012 at 06:26 AM

what times does he do down the 1/4


LIFE IN THE LOW LANE - February 24th, 2012 at 10:18 AM

150ish atw would show him a clean pair of heels!!


Craig Torrens - February 24th, 2012 at 12:12 PM

95-100hp and take a whole lot of weight out of the car !


modnrod - February 25th, 2012 at 06:05 AM

Charger V8s weigh 1460kg, or 3210lbs, + 230lbs for driver and a 1/4 tank = 3540lbs/271HP = 13.06.
13.0 = approx low13s, probably at around 100mph, assuming he can get traction (Hoosier Quick-time's work good under Chargers on the street.......or so I've heard), and he has a diff around 4.11 with a 3000stall. If he has street tyres and a 3.23 diff with street stall, then he should only pull low/mid 14s.

In other words......HE'S TOAST!!!:lol:


T25Turbo - February 25th, 2012 at 05:14 PM

You guys are all absolute legends, thanks for the info and entertainment!! I personally love the "271" answer, that made me chuckle a lot, but so true!!!

So if I can get my hands on a 2 litre of some sort, do a rebuild with head porting and stuff done by Craig Brown, then get twin 44's or a single holley 4 barrel, some extractors, a digital igniton system, a berg cam and crank, k&n filters, would that do it? thats about $4000 - $5000 just there if I get the build done right, postage, labour, parts etc. or I could get one of those turn key jobbies from turbosRus in the states for about $6500 plus postage.

the only other drama is the gearbox, im pretty sure flatout my bug only does about 140ish, I might need a different final drive or just get another gearbox, and that is where the build goes out of control. maybe I should just nitrous it, and hope for the best.


T25Turbo - February 25th, 2012 at 05:27 PM

he hasnt run it down the quarter btu i reckon I could convince him if I was going to go racing.

It has a sound system installed that would weigh a fair bit. its a 383 big block VF or VG regal 770 that has had the custom treatment, it is a very nice car, however would be nicer in the rear view of any volkswagen I was driving.


T25Turbo - February 25th, 2012 at 05:32 PM

To Craig Torrens, if your car in the profile pic is Alan Agyiks old one, then my beetle is the poorer cousin to yours, as mine has the 66 chassis and 70 body, where yours has the 70 chassis and 66 body. it would be crazy to get them together for a photo one day!!!:tu::smilegrin:


cam070 - February 25th, 2012 at 07:44 PM

His is definitely an Ex Alan Agyik car. He bought it off a mate of mine, who bought it from Alan. My mate was suggesting I buy one of Alan's other cars, presumabley that might now be yours.


Craig Torrens - February 26th, 2012 at 10:28 AM

Yep, my ragtop is the ex Dasdubber beast.:)


T25Turbo - February 26th, 2012 at 11:20 AM

Well Craig, your ragtop has a sibling in Katherine NT and is still going strong. I have a few things to still do to it, but its still registered and running and still looks awesome. I bought it from DasDubber in 2006 and thinking back the time has flown by. I just can't bring myself to get rid of the old girl, even tho I am more of a Kombi guy, due to my height (6'3"). But there's nothing like an old beetle, lowered with a big aircooled motor in the back!


Craig Torrens - February 26th, 2012 at 12:35 PM

I think I have the wheels that came off your car....they were the wide 5 early rims with the later style of hubcaps !


T25Turbo - February 26th, 2012 at 01:30 PM

Nice, I have the wide 5, 5 spoke black centres, empi i think. yours is discs all round is it? mine is drums.


Craig Torrens - February 26th, 2012 at 03:03 PM

Yep discs all round.......the wide 5's I bought off Al were for my 58.:tu: