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WTB : NSW: Camber Control Arm or Rear Sway Bar
gotthebug65 - May 4th, 2013 at 11:12 AM

I am after a camber control arm or rear sway bar to suit a swing axle type beetle

Newcastle Area

vwo60 - May 4th, 2013 at 12:39 PM

Be carefull fitting a sway bar to a swing axle rear end, the bar actually promotes rear wheel tuck, a camber compensator is made for a swing axel rear end
http://www.piersideparts.net/MB9615.html 

whathaveidone - May 4th, 2013 at 05:21 PM

Rod Penrose has some going cheap at the moment!! Get in contact with greg mackey(happydaze). He is a wizz on swing axel tuning. had the pleasure of seeing his setup recently. He should be able to point you in the right direction!!!

gotthebug65 - May 4th, 2013 at 05:30 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by vwo60
Be carefull fitting a sway bar to a swing axle rear end, the bar actually promotes rear wheel tuck, a camber compensator is made for a swing axel rear end
http://www.piersideparts.net/MB9615.html 


cheers that clears that up in my mind

gotthebug65 - May 4th, 2013 at 05:32 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by whathaveidone
Rod Penrose has some going cheap at the moment!! Get in contact with greg mackey(happydaze). He is a wizz on swing axel tuning. had the pleasure of seeing his setup recently. He should be able to point you in the right direction!!!


is that the camber compensator he has going cheap ?

HappyDaze - May 4th, 2013 at 07:40 PM

Fitting a 'camber compensator', without re-setting the rear torsion bars would be a waste of time.

gotthebug65 - May 5th, 2013 at 01:19 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by HappyDaze
Fitting a 'camber compensator', without re-setting the rear torsion bars would be a waste of time.


cheers for the tip

cnfabo - May 5th, 2013 at 01:26 PM

Wayne races a swing axle rear with a sway bar to success and I have also driven one as well and that are fine. Off the shelf camber compensators suck unless you build a mackie one, but more work then just bolting up a sway bar...my 2c

Fabo

vwo60 - May 5th, 2013 at 04:01 PM

I had sway bar on a swng axel car for about twenty minutes, took it off after a big dose of oversteer when the rear axels tucked mid corner, as for the available camber compensators, i have run these for years on both of my swing axel cars wiith out the sudden death oversteer that a sway bar promotes. Have a think how a sway bar operates, most manufacturers do not recommend fitting them.

HappyDaze - May 5th, 2013 at 07:53 PM

There is a bit more to improving the swing-axle suspension than just 'whacking on' a compensating spring, or anti-roll bar.

If a lot of power is involved, lack of traction could be a problem with an anti-roll bar. A limited-slip diff. would probably be needed.

After a bit of work on the rear suspension, understeer could rear its ugly head. Then you can work on the front end.......and so on.:yes:

gotthebug65 - May 6th, 2013 at 11:02 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by HappyDaze
There is a bit more to improving the swing-axle suspension than just 'whacking on' a compensating spring, or anti-roll bar.

If a lot of power is involved, lack of traction could be a problem with an anti-roll bar. A limited-slip diff. would probably be needed.

After a bit of work on the rear suspension, understeer could rear its ugly head. Then you can work on the front end.......and so on.:yes:


i found a good article on aircooled that talked about similar facets of swing arm suspention

http://www.aircooled.net/vw-handling-suspension-tuning/ 

i have konis on there atm it seemed to wriggle around a bit once i got up to 60 mph havent gone much past that atm ...

vwo60 - May 6th, 2013 at 12:36 PM

You can have a four wheel alignment, check the castor while you are at it as it might need a bit more to improve the straight line stability