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Wtd. Vacuum advance for 1971 Beetle distributor
helbus - January 6th, 2015 at 05:06 PM

The vacuum advance I need is to suit an Australian made Bosch distributor for a 1971 1600 twin port.

The Distributor has stamped on the side "Made in Australia" and the number designation as follows "U-ZV / JU 4R3"

The Vacuum advance unit has no numbers on it at all, and only has the Bosch symbol.

Some people may say "just chuck a 009 in it". The Beetle is still all original, and stock, and I would rather keep it that way, and not have to deal with a cheap distributor that does not suit the engine.


Grey 57 - January 7th, 2015 at 09:36 AM

Pete I'm pretty sure the standard SVDA dizzy that most supplier sell new is the right one for 1600TP.
If your looking for that actual part number we can have a look in the pile we have and try and find one. But vac cans tend to rot out after 20 years


Barty63 - January 11th, 2015 at 05:59 PM

This one any good for you? It just came off my 73.


farquire - January 12th, 2015 at 09:23 AM

no number on the arm going into the dizzy?


1303Steve - January 12th, 2015 at 09:32 AM

Hi

You can tell if it the correct one they have a plastic hose connection, the German ones had steel ones.

I'm surprised that it doesn't have a dual vac advance on that model

Steve


AA003 - January 12th, 2015 at 12:41 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 1303Steve
I'm surprised that it doesn't have a dual vac advance on that model

Steve


It would have had originally, but most were replaced with a single under warranty.


1303Steve - January 12th, 2015 at 03:06 PM

Hi

The VW approved alteration was a main and air jet change jet change and fitting a single vacuum can to the original dizzy. I'm pretty sure that the dual vacuum can dizzys were German.

The timing was also altered from 5⁰ AFTDC to 7⁰ BTDC. The dual vacuum carbs had vacuum port pointing rearward

Steve


Barty63 - January 12th, 2015 at 07:08 PM

It has 135 stamped on the arm..


helbus - January 12th, 2015 at 08:08 PM

The arm on our vac advance has no stamping numbers at all. Someone gave me one with 122 on the arm, but it does not fit.

I will get a picture of our one.


Barty63 - January 12th, 2015 at 09:14 PM

If you need anymore pics of mine let me know.


helbus - January 13th, 2015 at 09:27 AM

Pictures of distributor and advance unit. It has no numbers on it, not even on the arm inside. I have taken it out to look all over it.


1303Steve - January 13th, 2015 at 11:41 AM

is there a part number on the dizzy? You might need a magnet to see it edit sorry mirror


Barty63 - January 13th, 2015 at 11:55 AM

That looks like an earlier one. Looks similar to one on a 1300sp I have. I'll look at that one.


1303Steve - January 13th, 2015 at 05:17 PM

Does the dizzy have centrifugal advance?


helbus - January 13th, 2015 at 08:34 PM

The only part number is

The Distributor has stamped on the side "Made in Australia" and the number designation as follows "U-ZV / JU 4R3"


1303Steve - January 14th, 2015 at 07:32 AM

But does it have centrifugal advance as in can you twist the rotor button to produce advance


kaiisons - January 14th, 2015 at 09:26 AM

looks like vaccum only 1300/1500 SP distributor. According to OldVolksHome (US website so may not be entirely accurate). That distributor has the following specs.

Distributor: VW 111-905-205L, Bosch ZV/JU 4R3 (0231 147 002)
Can Use: VW 111-905-205M, Bosch 0231 147 002 or 111-905-205N, 0231 137 005
Replacement: VW 315-905-205B, Bosch 0231 137 031
Points: 01 009
Condensor: 02 007
Rotor: 04 006
Cap: 03 001
Coil: 00 001 (Blue Coil: 00 016)
Vacuum Can: 07 016 (NLA)
Ignition Wires: 09 003
Spark Plug: W8AC
Timing Set At:: 10deg BTDC Static or @ 800-950rpm w/strobe w/vacuum hose disconnected and plugged
Advance/Retard Range: Vacuum Advance Only: 5-11deg @ 1.3 In. Hg, 23-28deg @ 3.5 In. Hg


1303Steve - January 14th, 2015 at 09:39 AM

I'm thinking the same thing kaiisons, it looks like 1500 Beetle or early Type 3 dizzy.

A proper vacuum and centrifugal advance dizzy would really wake the car up.

That model Beetle should have had a jet change as well as single vacuum can fitted.

From memory it should run a 60Z air and 125-130 main jet , VW did this change because of the shocking fuel consumption these cars were getting


helbus - January 14th, 2015 at 10:00 AM

It is a vacuum only unit, the rotor does not have the movement. I have an old 1800 bus distributor here, and that has the weights and springs in it, so I see what you mean.

So for a 1600 twin port the replacement complete distributor would be as follows

Replacement: VW 315-905-205B, Bosch 0231 137 031


kaiisons - January 14th, 2015 at 03:31 PM

What carb does it have because distributors and carbs are matched moreso than the engines.


helbus - January 14th, 2015 at 09:07 PM

All over now.
I bought a replacement Vacuum unit 113905205A
Dropped it in, guessed the timing, and it started first pop and runs like a dream. Actually accellerates when you put your foot down now.