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WTB:titanium retainers.
62ragtop - April 2nd, 2007 at 11:21 PM

Anyone got a set of titanium retainers for sale?

vw54 - April 3rd, 2007 at 07:03 AM

Valve retainers ??? why

Boostn - April 3rd, 2007 at 03:32 PM

for what type of valve?

62ragtop - April 4th, 2007 at 11:50 PM

stainless steel valve....... Suppose to be better?

Boostn - April 5th, 2007 at 12:55 AM

yes but what type of valve?
ss in what type?

vw54 - April 5th, 2007 at 06:53 AM

there nuthing wrong with a set of steel retainers as well why waste your funds

jakjones - April 5th, 2007 at 07:23 AM

Titanium is lighter .Thats why

dangerous - April 5th, 2007 at 04:30 PM

Titanium retainers are much lighter than steel and worth every cent.
Their fatigue life is as good as chrome moly yet about half the weight.

Sometimes this sort of weight saving will prevent the need
to step up to the larger size springs.

Are the valves using a VW stem and collet?

Some guys have used single groove collets and chev size stems
so there is a few different sizes available. I think that these are the details that Nick needs.

vw54 - April 5th, 2007 at 05:30 PM

yeah i know the weight n strength advantage

but what about the rest of the junk hanging off the engine weight wont be important strength would be if you were going to high revs all the time

62ragtop - April 5th, 2007 at 07:56 PM

Thanks for the info guys....i guess i need to find out excatly what type of vlve its for...will let you guys know.

Thanks!

dangerous - April 16th, 2007 at 10:06 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by vw54
yeah i know the weight n strength advantage

but what about the rest of the junk hanging off the engine weight wont be important strength would be if you were going to high revs all the time


The weight of titanium retainers is an advantage to valve train control.
There is more to weight saving than just the mass accellerating in a straight line.

This is true for rotational weight as well as reciprocating.
For small and large parts.

vw54 - April 16th, 2007 at 10:34 AM

yes that is true and i understand teh advantage and use it where appropiate but what about the rest of the Kilos that are involved with the car

if all other components are HEAVY then the valve train retainers are a W A S T E of time

like this thread LOL

hellbugged - April 16th, 2007 at 10:58 AM

five times the cost of cro molly:duh............i've got a set if your still chasing some

62ragtop - April 16th, 2007 at 07:23 PM

Please u2u me the price and also what valve issit for?

dangerous - April 16th, 2007 at 07:37 PM

Waste of time for some.
But not for me.

I found the retainers to be nearly half the weight of a chromoly retainer
and exteded my point of valve control by 500 rpm.

I am always happy to contibute something
that I have found to be worthwhile.

Just because YOU think it is a waste of time Dave, does not make it so.

Show some common respect.
Just because you don't care, or don't understand,
does not mean you should thrust your opinion on others, regarding a thread's relevance.
You should know better being a moderator.

Yeah, lol!

Gracey - April 16th, 2007 at 08:04 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by dangerous
Waste of time for some.
But not for me.

I found the retainers to be nearly half the weight of a chromoly retainer
and exteded my point of valve control by 500 rpm.

I am always happy to contibute something
that I have found to be worthwhile.

Just because YOU think it is a waste of time Dave, does not make it so.

Show some common respect.
Just because you don't care, or don't understand,
does not mean you should thrust your opinion on others, regarding a thread's relevance.
You should know better being a moderator.

Yeah, lol!


Well said Dave, I was thinking the same thing, only in not such a diplomatic way.

vw54 - April 17th, 2007 at 07:02 AM

LOL

vw54 - April 17th, 2007 at 07:03 AM

Dave you should talk to Boostn about the project then you will know why

noslug - April 17th, 2007 at 07:56 AM

I have a set of GB titanium retainers for a VW stem. They are for the GB triples, if you are interested I can check if they will work with doubles. Price $60

FWIW - I have used the remmelle alloy retainers as well, they also work very well, and are lighter again.

http://www.racingsprings.com/movies.htm  check out these - shows how much movement there is in the stem and spring!!

62ragtop - April 18th, 2007 at 08:14 PM

noslug, does it fit doubles?

BeetleJuice - April 18th, 2007 at 08:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 62ragtop
noslug, does it fit doubles?


It depends on what doubles you have! You'll have to measure them.

I ran the berg titanium retainers for triples and use the berg triple springs without the small inner, thus ended up being a double spring.

I must say the berg retainers and springs were a really nice tight fit!