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WTD. Bump Steer Kit.
alien8 - October 27th, 2008 at 11:30 PM

Does anyone know where I can pick up a bump steer kit for a late beetle in Bris?
I did a ring around to the regular suppliers but no luck.

Sides - October 28th, 2008 at 07:29 AM

OK, I'm curious (and possibly uneducated) - I've never even heard of a bump steer kit until now...

VWCOOL - October 28th, 2008 at 08:23 AM

They're sleeves that allow the tie rods to be installed 'upside down' in the steering arms. The taper in the steering arms are drilled out; sleeves (with tapers) installed... some people reckon they reduce bump steer ;)

Sides - October 28th, 2008 at 12:01 PM

Ahh cool - thanks Glen - now I'm a bit less uneducated !!!

:tu:

Brad - October 28th, 2008 at 01:21 PM

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Originally posted by alien8
Does anyone know where I can pick up a bump steer kit for a late beetle in Bris?
I did a ring around to the regular suppliers but no luck.


I can do you a set for you $25 plus postage or I can drop it at Custom Vee Dub - 28 Hayward St, STAFFORD

I have them in stock and ready to go.

STIDUB - October 28th, 2008 at 10:39 PM

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Originally posted by Buggy Brad
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Originally posted by alien8
Does anyone know where I can pick up a bump steer kit for a late beetle in Bris?
I did a ring around to the regular suppliers but no luck.


I can do you a set for you $25 plus postage or I can drop it at Custom Vee Dub - 28 Hayward St, STAFFORD

I have them in stock and ready to go.


are they the same for 2 & 3 bolt hubs? is that exhange or outright?

Brad - October 28th, 2008 at 10:51 PM

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Originally posted by STIDUB
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Originally posted by Buggy Brad
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Originally posted by alien8
Does anyone know where I can pick up a bump steer kit for a late beetle in Bris?
I did a ring around to the regular suppliers but no luck.


I can do you a set for you $25 plus postage or I can drop it at Custom Vee Dub - 28 Hayward St, STAFFORD

I have them in stock and ready to go.


are they the same for 2 & 3 bolt hubs? is that exhange or outright?


They are the same for 2 and 3 bolt struts and that price is outright.

By asking that thought I am guessing that you have no idea what we are actually talking about, yeah ?

The "Flip Kit" consists of two tapered bushes with hats on which you drill out your pitman arm and press fit them. This then allows you to run your tie rod upside down and thus get it back to nearly stock geometry with lowered struts.

2 and 3 bolts struts use the same tie rod ends tappers thus the same bushes. If you had R&P steering though it is different, but with R&P lowered front struts are not an issue.

1303Steve - October 28th, 2008 at 11:05 PM

Hi

I had a set on my 3 bolt 1302, worked great, I fitted some to my 2 bolt 1303 and they made the bump steer worse.

Steve

STIDUB - October 29th, 2008 at 12:57 PM

hi brad, i do know what i was talking about it wasnt clear if you were including drilled out hubs to bolt on or just the bit to press in to fit the balljoint upside down. i was just curious if they were they same inserts for the 2 & 3 as im in the process of deciding whats best for what im planning, thanks
:tu: ill probably grab a pair off you in future

Joel - October 29th, 2008 at 05:54 PM

as Steve said u cant use them on 2 bolt Lbugs
the tierods hit the swaybar amounst other issues
but u gotta have them on a 3 bolt if u go lower than 2-3" if u want steering thats somewhat normal

STIDUB - January 30th, 2009 at 10:42 PM

hey brad, if could you bring a pair of bushings to dubs if your going id happily get a pair off you then :tu:

Camo - January 31st, 2009 at 08:11 AM

I'm still a little unsure as what your are referring to when you say bump steer. Do you mean your steering is effected due your steering components bumping into each other due to lower etc.

A photo of the before and after shots would be appreciated and that way we can all learn.

Thanks, Kevin

Joel - January 31st, 2009 at 10:21 AM

bump steer is when the suspension goes up and down the tierods become to short/long so the steering alignment changes

u end up with toe in/toe out and it plays hell with the cars handling tyre wear etc

its also worse when lowered as ideally the tierods should be parallel to the control arms, when lowered they run uphill to the stub axles

so by mounting them from the bottom it straightens them again

beam bugs are shocking for it cos 2 tierods are different lengths
if u look under any superbug or modern car u will see the tierods are symmetrical that helps reduce it

i got my bumpsteeer kit from boris and it needed no machining cos it uses earlier tierod ends with the smaller shafts and a sleeve to fit in the knuckle

alien8 - January 31st, 2009 at 01:50 PM

To 'flip' the tie rod ends you have to pull the steering knuckle out and dill them on a press to the correct size for the bump steer inserts.