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Windscreen glass. where to get?
alien8 - December 21st, 2008 at 06:38 PM

Where do yo get a new windscreen for a 72 Super. I am after the flat one not the curve? I am in Brisbane.

How much is one of these going to cost?

thanks, brad.


grumble - December 21st, 2008 at 06:46 PM

Windscreens O'Brien have screens to suit just about anything and they come with a nationwide warranty.


stevosky - December 21st, 2008 at 06:46 PM

There should be plenty of second hand ones around. I have one out of a 71. I don't know if it would be exactly the same?


Joel - December 21st, 2008 at 07:00 PM

any 68 on bug will fit just as long as its not an Lbug

ive got 2 new Lbug screens now one was $140 from windscreens obrien in 2001 when i painted my bug and other was $165 from novus coming home from valla 06

flat screen should be a bit cheaper than that i would hope


68AutoBug - December 21st, 2008 at 07:16 PM

all the windscreens are the same size -
in 1968 to 1976 beetles with a flatish windscreen.
ALL Non Supers and 1302S Superbugs for thuse years are the same...

Used windscreens will most likely be the toughened glass
type which shatter on impact from a stone etc...

All New ones should be laminated..
as the safety glass type are No Longer legal in NSW.

Keep asking - there should be heaps of used ones about..

LEE

I bought a New laminated one in 2005 for $140
windscreen only - it will cost more for them to put it in..
LEE


68AutoBug - December 21st, 2008 at 07:18 PM

They aren't made from FLAT glass ..

there is a slight bulge in them

Lee


helbus - December 21st, 2008 at 07:38 PM

$165 fitted from just about any windscreen place. Unfortunately you cant tell if a good or lazy person is commissioned to fit it until it is too late.


alien8 - December 21st, 2008 at 08:01 PM

Cool thanks guys:tu:

I just need the glass to put back in when I finish painting it. The windscreen cracked when I was pulling it out. I cut the outside rubber away from the glass and frame then I lightly tapped the top inside corner with the heel of my hand. It cracked from top to bottom. The back screen came out no problem at all and I was tapping it heaps harder? Spewin!


pod - December 21st, 2008 at 08:05 PM

i always find it easier to get out when you cut the inside rubber from the lip if you are going to replace the seals:yes:


alien8 - December 21st, 2008 at 08:16 PM

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Originally posted by pod
i always find it easier to get out when you cut the inside rubber from the lip if you are going to replace the seals:yes:



That makes more sense. Dammit! Oh well least I know for next time now.:tu:


oval TOFU - December 22nd, 2008 at 09:30 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by helbus
$165 fitted from just about any windscreen place. Unfortunately you cant tell if a good or lazy person is commissioned to fit it until it is too late.


What happened?


Bizarre - December 22nd, 2008 at 10:00 AM

I would buy new

Most of the old (if in good cndition) would be safety glass anyway

There is an affiliated company with O'Briens called something Cheap Glass or stupid like that and they were literaly half the price whaen i got a commodore glass changed. Receipt was from O'Briens

What i am saying is - as usual shop around

Bib difference for the exact same glass


Bizarre - December 22nd, 2008 at 10:01 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by oval TOFU
Quote:
Originally posted by helbus
$165 fitted from just about any windscreen place. Unfortunately you cant tell if a good or lazy person is commissioned to fit it until it is too late.


What happened?


Guessing it leaked if not done properly


barls - December 22nd, 2008 at 10:15 AM

also if your an nrma member you get a discount on the windscreen from obriens. they have done mine twice in my 72. i just supplied the seal i wanted them to use


helbus - December 22nd, 2008 at 10:17 AM

Background -
I have removed and fitted probably 500 screens for work over the years. They were crash work, and fitting the same window and same rubber is pretty straight forward for a fairly stndard and not too old car. We are talking Corolla's VC Commodores and XF falcon rears, Wagon and van side glass etc. when the cars are only a few years old. Windscreen places do this kind of work as bread and butter. Quick and easy, that is why I did them in house.

With older cars, I have done about 50, mainly for old Holdens and VW's. Windows with chrome mouldings. If the moulds are bent, the rubber is no good or wrong, or there is a problem, I work it, I fix it or with communication I explain what needs to be done to achieve a restoration result, not just a slap in of a window.

What has happened-
I have seen quite a few Older car fitments that are obviously done by someone who either doesn't care about their workmanship, is too lazy, hasn't got the experience, won't speak up when the rubber is wrong, or rust is showing etc. Not all cars are perfect, not all rubbers are perfect, it is not like clicking a LEGO set together. But anything is possible with skill and patience.

I get any screens that are not standard done by a specialist fitter. We are talking a guy who grinds screens down to fit them properly so all rubbers and moulds fit perfect in older cars that are very inconsistent in their build. Try 2 days and $1000 labour to fit a Jaguar E-Type screen. When you see the screen go in and out a few times, being ground down to get a perfect fit, and the finished result, you appreciate it.

Sometimes you don't know until it is too late that you ended up with a lazy fitter.

With the glass, you will find that most front screens are made from laminated glass which is soft and able to crack relatively easy. The originals if never replaced were toughened glass like all of the rest of the glass in your VW. Toughened glass shatters, but is very strong. I have been lucky enough to have never broken a front window taking it out. I have however broken an XF Falcon rear screen taking it out. It just exploded! The boss wasn't happy.

Quote:
Originally posted by oval TOFU
Quote:
Originally posted by helbus
$165 fitted from just about any windscreen place. Unfortunately you cant tell if a good or lazy person is commissioned to fit it until it is too late.


What happened?


oval TOFU - December 22nd, 2008 at 10:32 AM

wow, that's attention to detail!
What's everyone's opinion about Windscreens O'Brien? I can only get glass of them if I'm to get my free glass from Shannons..


helbus - December 22nd, 2008 at 10:54 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by oval TOFU
wow, that's attention to detail!
What's everyone's opinion about Windscreens O'Brien? I can only get glass of them if I'm to get my free glass from Shannons..


Shannons will pay O'Briens direct for your glass and fitment.

Your other option is to get it fitted by your choice of fitter, and upon claiming with Shannons with the ABN'd Tax Invoice you will be reimbursed. This means you can fit it yourself, but you will only get the actual cost of the glass paid for.


oval TOFU - December 22nd, 2008 at 11:17 AM

I'm happy for O'Briens to fit it - I don't have moldings in my screen rubber... I'll tell them to alert me if there's rust though. I think it's crap that the screen needs to be cracked for them to replace it... never mind that it's got 50+ years of scratches and abrasion marks on it that pretty much renders the screen opaque when an oncoming car's headlights hits your screen....


philsmanx - December 22nd, 2008 at 11:29 AM

have a window here with the vents if you like


alien8 - December 22nd, 2008 at 05:11 PM

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Originally posted by philsmanx
have a window here with the vents if you like


Thanks mate, I think I found a windscreen local (I really don't want to pull another one out just yet:crazy:) but I will be up after Xmas for the vents if ya still got them. Give you a bell.
Cheers, Brad.