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Converting the CB original motor to 1600cc....Is that against restoration rules...
Craig Torrens - March 13th, 2010 at 11:56 AM

Ok, so I have the original 1300 motor with my CB.....I'm going to freshen it up, so would changing it to a 1600 be seen as a NO NO amongst the CBuggy resto purists ?

This car is a complete ground up resto, and as I want to drive it to shows,events etc I just think the 1300 will frustrate me !!!

Thoughts everyone?


colonel mustard - March 13th, 2010 at 11:59 AM

I think if the 1300 will frustrate you - after hearing about some of your other cars, a 1600 probably will too.


Craig Torrens - March 13th, 2010 at 12:01 PM

I have two 36hp cars and a 1500 beetle............so I'm happy to drive slow cars !

Its just in my opinion while its apart its easy to fit the 1600 kit !


BUGBOY - March 13th, 2010 at 01:04 PM

If it was me i'd leave it a 1300 but thats me. It's your car so do as you will . I know 1300 pistons and barrels are like rocking horse poo! LOL


Sides - March 13th, 2010 at 02:24 PM

Would a Judson fit under a CB deck lid ???

;)

Craig if it was mine I'd go as big as I could so that engine still looked stock externally... you know the usual things of the correct case, manifold, carbs etc.


squizy - March 13th, 2010 at 08:16 PM

Where's that guy who took me for a belt in the CB with a 1916 in it?


Joel - March 13th, 2010 at 08:19 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Craig Torrens
Its just in my opinion while its apart its easy to fit the 1600 kit !


shoulda just done it anyway and kept your mouth shut :lol:

i woulda thought a 1600sp would propell a toploader washing machine on wheels down the road quite comfortably


ztnoo - March 13th, 2010 at 08:56 PM

Craig,
Well.......It is your CB, so of course you can do with it as you want. Can't say I blame you for wanting a little more zip afforded by a bigger motor.

For restoration purposes and if there is any consideration of possible resale down the road however, I would say IMO since you are telling us it is a complete car with the original motor it likely would be worth more as a restoration to original condition.
The things that increase this likely value are (1) very limited production numbers, and (2) very few roadworthy surviving examples exist today.

In the end, it's your decision.
Let us know what you decide.

Regards,
Steve


squizy - March 13th, 2010 at 09:05 PM

Get the 1300 rebuilt, but put it in for shows only. Drop in the 1916 for when you take me driving. That'll do.


trickysimon - March 13th, 2010 at 09:45 PM

Mick is selling an engine that would be suitable ;)


hellbugged - March 13th, 2010 at 11:21 PM

i remember a country buggy that used to attend Valla with a steel roll cage and big motor.....that was cool :yes:

got a couple of sets of 1300 p & b here if you need, some single port heads too.

with Joel on this one, not much weight in em, 1300's are cool enough


BrisDubba - March 14th, 2010 at 10:00 PM

1300 you lucky lucky bastard.

Mine is only 1200 - though it is original it annoys the crap out of me. Yes I appreciate the fact that it is original but I live on a hill so it is pretty noticeable. I have only taken it to a couple of shows but I have thrown it on the trailer rather than drive the 80 or so klm trip to the shows on the coast.

Obviously it is your choice, but the average punter struggles to know what they are let alone what motor it should have in it. As long as it generator, single carb etc and looks the part, that is what matters to me.


Peter
KO200


58camper - March 15th, 2010 at 10:38 AM

IMO there are no restoration rules applicable even for eccentrics like myself. I just want to see more and more CBs back on the road where possible and if that means non original engines and running gear then so be it.
The key for me is to see quality restos or at least semi quality ones where the added value effort will keep the vehicle roadworthy for as many years as possible.
A word of caution about engine size- I dont think anything above 1600 cc will repay you with the extra grunt and cruising speed you may be looking for. Those reduction hubs are real limiters and snapped spring plates may be more common place..
countrybuggybill


Craig Torrens - March 15th, 2010 at 08:20 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by trickysimon
Mick is selling an engine that would be suitable ;)


suitable for a boat anchor.


ovalbug - March 17th, 2010 at 07:31 AM

do you still want those parts Craig?


Craig Torrens - May 18th, 2010 at 06:18 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 58camper
IMO there are no restoration rules applicable even for eccentrics like myself. I just want to see more and more CBs back on the road where possible and if that means non original engines and running gear then so be it.
The key for me is to see quality restos or at least semi quality ones where the added value effort will keep the vehicle roadworthy for as many years as possible.
A word of caution about engine size- I dont think anything above 1600 cc will repay you with the extra grunt and cruising speed you may be looking for. Those reduction hubs are real limiters and snapped spring plates may be more common place..
countrybuggybill


Hi Bill,

I certainly wouldn't go any larger than 1600 if i did change the capacity, and it would be 100% stock in specifications.

I'm thinking I will keep it 1300 though.