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dstevenson101 - April 17th, 2013 at 10:20 PM

my 71 bug has the low/high beam swith on the indicator stalk.
it doesn't seem to work (stuck on low beam).

I have taken the steering wheel off to have a look at the indicator stalk and i can get the headlights to switch to hight beam if i press down on the 2 plastic tabs that are at the base of the stalk, but as soon as i take my finger off these plastic tabs the lights revert back to low beam

I can't seem to make sense of this. it does appear broken, but obviously something isn't right.

can anyone give me some clues.

is my stalk assembly fixable or do I need to new one? thanks


grumble - April 18th, 2013 at 09:05 AM

It is most likely the relay as the switch only triggers the flip flop relay to change beams. If you want a relay I have both new and used.


68AutoBug - April 18th, 2013 at 12:51 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by dstevenson101
my 71 bug has the low/high beam swith on the indicator stalk.
it doesn't seem to work (stuck on low beam).

I have taken the steering wheel off to have a look at the indicator stalk and i can get the headlights to switch to hight beam if i press down on the 2 plastic tabs that are at the base of the stalk, but as soon as i take my finger off these plastic tabs the lights revert back to low beam

I can't seem to make sense of this. it does appear broken, but obviously something isn't right.

can anyone give me some clues.

is my stalk assembly fixable or do I need to new one? thanks


HI
VW was a step ahead of many car makers with their electric
switching of High - Low Beam...

its NOT a switch like on most Japanese cars from 1970 - 2012
push forwards or backwards... a basic ON-ON switch..

its just a momentary switch.. on the VW..
the contacts just close when You pull on the lever..
when You release the arm its doing nothing... lol

the switch just switches the HEADLAMP relay..

Grumble says He has a relay... and they are a special VW relay...

cheers

LEE


dstevenson101 - April 18th, 2013 at 07:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by 68AutoBug
Quote:
Originally posted by dstevenson101
my 71 bug has the low/high beam swith on the indicator stalk.
it doesn't seem to work (stuck on low beam).

I have taken the steering wheel off to have a look at the indicator stalk and i can get the headlights to switch to hight beam if i press down on the 2 plastic tabs that are at the base of the stalk, but as soon as i take my finger off these plastic tabs the lights revert back to low beam

I can't seem to make sense of this. it does appear broken, but obviously something isn't right.

can anyone give me some clues.

is my stalk assembly fixable or do I need to new one? thanks


HI
VW was a step ahead of many car makers with their electric
switching of High - Low Beam...

its NOT a switch like on most Japanese cars from 1970 - 2012
push forwards or backwards... a basic ON-ON switch..

its just a momentary switch.. on the VW..
the contacts just close when You pull on the lever..
when You release the arm its doing nothing... lol

the switch just switches the HEADLAMP relay..

Grumble says He has a relay... and they are a special VW relay...

cheers

LEE


Hi Grumble, I guess I better try the relay if you think that's what it is.

How much do you want for a new or used one?

Cheers
Dale


grumble - April 18th, 2013 at 09:16 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by dstevenson101
Quote:
Originally posted by 68AutoBug
Quote:
Originally posted by dstevenson101
my 71 bug has the low/high beam swith on the indicator stalk.
it doesn't seem to work (stuck on low beam).

I have taken the steering wheel off to have a look at the indicator stalk and i can get the headlights to switch to hight beam if i press down on the 2 plastic tabs that are at the base of the stalk, but as soon as i take my finger off these plastic tabs the lights revert back to low beam

I can't seem to make sense of this. it does appear broken, but obviously something isn't right.

can anyone give me some clues.

is my stalk assembly fixable or do I need to new one? thanks


HI
VW was a step ahead of many car makers with their electric
switching of High - Low Beam...

its NOT a switch like on most Japanese cars from 1970 - 2012
push forwards or backwards... a basic ON-ON switch..

its just a momentary switch.. on the VW..
the contacts just close when You pull on the lever..
when You release the arm its doing nothing... lol

the switch just switches the HEADLAMP relay..

Grumble says He has a relay... and they are a special VW relay...

cheers

LEE


Hi Grumble, I guess I better try the relay if you think that's what it is.

How much do you want for a new or used one?

Cheers
Dale

$25 for the new or $15 for used plus post.


dstevenson101 - April 19th, 2013 at 09:45 PM

is this the same part that is advertised for $17.30 on JustKampers? if not, could you please detail the difference. '


http://www.justkampersaustralia.com/shop/headlamp-relay-12v-for-vw-beetle-vw-...


Thanks


grumble - April 20th, 2013 at 01:31 PM

If you want a "dutch auction" check prices at Classic,Micks's Motors,and a dozen other suppliers,I purchased these when I had my workshop and that is what they owe me. If you want cheap I can also find a stuffed one for you.I have no problem giving advice or assistance on this forum based on my trade experience but am not a charity.Good luck Les


dstevenson101 - April 20th, 2013 at 07:45 PM

Les,

I did not intend to offend. I don't have a lot of knowledge with the electrics of beetles and was simply inquirying as to if there was any technical difference, I was not questioning quality, as I am well aware that when ordering from these websites, quality is traded off with price. There is so many intricate differences between beetle models, my question was purely technical based.

I understand that people need to make a dollar for their time.
I value peoples knowledge and I'm prepared to pay for the right advice, rather than rely on a generic description of a part on an internet site.
so please, no offecnce intended.

Regards
Dale


grumble - April 21st, 2013 at 01:23 PM

Hi Dale apology accepted as I said I am prepared to assist where i can and know the parts that I have aren't always the cheapest but I tried to use good quality parts in my workshop as I too was burnt with cheap parts that didn't perform from some well known suppliers and consequently wouldn't buy from them again unless it was a last resort. The unit from Just Campers should do the job for you.
Cheers Les


bnicho - May 24th, 2013 at 07:44 AM

This is a very useful thread. I believe my Super has the same issue. When switching to high beam the h/b warning lamp does not light up and the headlights go off.

Is it likely I have the same relay issue? Is it one of the relays in the fuse box?

Thanks,
Brett