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NullaDub - October 7th, 2008 at 12:49 PM

Folks,

I have a 62 Beetle that I'm going to give a little bit of love, in the form of Disc Brakes. What I am looking for is a little advice on the pitfalls of doing this with the kits from anyone that has done it on a fairly early Bug.

Should I be thinking about switching to type 3 drums on the rear .... is there a cheaper option than buying the kits from people such as VVWS.

At this point I am thinking that I will stay with the original stud pattern - cause my wheels are ok. Equally I suppose I am open to any ideas people have about what else I should consider doing given I am going to have the car up and up to my arms in it.

cheers

Troy
Sutherland / Sydney / NSW


1303Steve - October 7th, 2008 at 01:01 PM

Hi

A few people on here have given glowing reviews on the kit from Vintage Vee Dub supplies, do a search, I'm sure you will find their posts.

Stve


Pauld - October 7th, 2008 at 02:04 PM

what i would like to know is if there is any way of running a vacuum assisted booster?


1303Steve - October 7th, 2008 at 04:43 PM

Hi

You can do it, but they are not needed, if you have shit brakes a booster wont help, it will only make them easier to apply.

Steve


Pauld - October 7th, 2008 at 05:13 PM

which is kinda what i want, mine brakes fine would just like to make it that tiny bit nicer to drive


Turbo54 - October 17th, 2008 at 10:28 AM

If you want to go all out, VWcool has awesome sets for sale.
T54


VWCOOL - October 17th, 2008 at 05:14 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Turbo54
If you want to go all out, VWcool has awesome sets for sale.
T54


Thanks for the rap! However my vented kits only fit late-model stuff, not the old kingy front ends

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=68055&page=1#pid646599 


but if you are doing a chassis swap.... :cool:


Bizarre - October 19th, 2008 at 08:11 PM

Do you want to keep the wide 5 bolt patterm of the 62 or would you go to 4 bolt??


grumble - October 19th, 2008 at 08:32 PM

Steve is right if your brakes are stuffed a booster won't help. But if you have good hydraulics,hoses and shoes a VH44 booster will fit under the L/H/F on the opposite side to the master cylinder,a vacuum line can be run under the car in the floor pan recess and then its a small matter of a couple of hydraulic lines and a good bleed. I have used this system on several bugs over the years with great success. Les


Pauld - October 20th, 2008 at 10:54 AM

could you send me through some pics so i make sure i get how u have done it down pat?


NullaDub - October 21st, 2008 at 08:33 PM

I'm a bit torn about the pattern. Seems to me that for the price of front disks and a new set of Mags ( Say EMPI ) I could get a front and rear disks in a holden / ford pattern. Then I could pretty easily pick up a set of mags of Ebay and have not spent much more but have greater overall braking and better options going forward.

Thoughts ??


NullaDub - October 21st, 2008 at 08:48 PM

For example I could get a set like this..

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/VW-factory-alloy-rims-wheels-15-x6-multi-spoke_W0QQite...

Ok Size / Offset etc etc


hellbugged - October 21st, 2008 at 08:51 PM

offset will be your downfall doing it that way..........

i've always thought there are plenty of nice mags for BMW's tho


Pauld - October 22nd, 2008 at 10:33 AM

thats the way im thinking of going as well to do the brake convert but then its a matter of squaring away the offset issues


VWCOOL - October 22nd, 2008 at 01:16 PM

.. good luck with that!


Newt - October 25th, 2008 at 11:51 PM

Hi Guys

What is a VH44 booster out of?

Cheers

Newt


ctefeh - October 26th, 2008 at 08:05 AM

If memory serves, our old HR Holden Premier had a VH44 setup as standard.

HTH
Ctefeh


Bizarre - October 26th, 2008 at 04:37 PM

You also need to be REAL carefull about the centre hole

VWs have a need for a real big hole - if ya get my drift :no:

The centreing ring on the fronts and the large nuts on the rear may mean a bore job on the cheap wheels

Nothing is easy - sigh :(


Pauld - October 27th, 2008 at 10:52 AM

the stuff off the older cars should accomadate this problem though shouldnt it? they used to have larger hub centre holes and had the larger offsets as well, the 5 spoke rims the hq racers are running would be worth a look


grumble - October 28th, 2008 at 08:43 PM

The VH44 is an aftermarket booster which is fairly compact. We used to fit a lot of them to land rovers,holdens or anything that came with drum or disc brakes that just needed a bit of assistance.The unit on the HR and X2 was a different unit (what we in the trade called a mongrel set up) ,although some were fitted with the VH44 at dealerships. I will try to post a couple of pics but not quite sure on procedure Regards Les


grumble - October 31st, 2008 at 10:57 AM

here you go guys
http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp208/lesbarlinauto/blue%20stretch/100_0855.jpg

http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp208/lesbarlinauto/blue%20stretch/100_0856.jpg

http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp208/lesbarlinauto/blue%20stretch/100_0939.jpg