Hi
I have just joined the ranks with a 1970 1500 type 1. The beetle has points and I don't have fond memories from my youth having to keep on setting points and the timing in general.

So my question is there a quality electronic ignition system that I can fit to the beetle. I'm told I don't have the 009 dissy.

What is the general things people have fitted?
thanks
steve

I use Scorcher

Bosh parts. Readily available
A complete unit

http://www.performanceignition.com.au/ 

I havent use the one fron VVDS but i have seen they sell a coil pack
No rotor or cap

just steer clear of anything with empi/accufire/hotspark etc lables on them

if its under $100 theres a reason

ive been through to many of them
lashed out and got a pertonix ignitorII and had good luck with this one

Check out the upcoming VWMA... CBB is having unbeatable sales on Pertronix stuff. Modules, dizzies etc.

Thanks everyone for the quick answers.

I'll have to follow up and learn more about these systems.

May I ask what is "VWMA... CBB" as I haven't come accross this acronym before.

One last newbie question, I have to rebuild my tool kit now I have to start working on the dub, is the dub, metric or SAE or some other system?
thanks
steve

VWMA - VW Magazine Australia http://www.vwma.net.au/ 

CBB - Custom Bugs and Busses http://www.cbbvw.com/index2.html 

Tools - metric - mainly 10,13,17mm would get you 90% of the suckers

Thanks again for the quick reply. I am amazed at all the information that is out there and the advice given. As a newbie, I have to say it is a very friendly atmosphere to ask and learn.

Will chase up those specials mentioned.

As for tools, have now let the word out to the family for my up and coming birthday. I might try to raid my son's toolbox, that would really be revenge...

cheers
steve

PS Bizarre - gotta say your avatar is down right scary.

I just recently fitted a new dizzy from Dbb and Pertronix ignition, easy to fit and cured most of my tuning problems as well.

(if you go for cheap things like me)

I've got High energy ignition came as a kit from Dick smith. its proven to be reliable kit came with aluminium box and cost me $25 a few years back. i don't know if they still sell them. the kit operates on points as a signal pick up but there is virtually no current flowing thru so the mechanical wear is little to none.
[i find that you shouldn't mount it in the engine bay.. as i found out on a rainy day the water gets in. because i still had my points i just bypassthe kit and run ignition on the points, went home, next day hook it back up and the kit still works]

there is also programmable high energy ignition from jaycar that lets you map the ignition advance and optional knock sensor. there are 3mapping rpm point (low mid high) but that's pretty much enough unless you've got a hi rev racing engine. cost about $100 but u could probably get something like a pointless kit from your vw shop with that price

high energy ignition makes cold start easier and low rev operation too..
these high energy ignition has current limit

and there's a CDI (capacitor discharge ignition) which stores charges inside a capacitor and release a burst into a coil. altho the kit they stock is for a bike but one of the guy said it should work the same
http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=KC5466 

(if you go for cheap things like me)

Hi jsheppard64
As an Electronic Engineer I had been looking very closely at the kits you have mentioned. The siliconchip CDI systems are designed by John Clarke. John's designs are very well thought out and designed.

I have been leaning to the ignitor hall effect points replacement device, because the points are replaced completely. Even with low current, the points still have problems with the constant rubbing on the drive shaft of the distributor.

I did see on youtube a clip of the 009 dissy being installed with the ignitor hall effect point replacement.

I also note that the CDI design in siliconchip can use hall effect devices as a trigger for the CDI, so maybe down the track I might give John's design a whirl. Johns design also requires a hand control kit so that you can program and set up the CDI kit, this is about $60 extra.
regards
steve

Hi annosL
I am not familiar with the acronym Dbb. Is it a company or website.
regards
steve

well sorry about that then i didn't know CDI uses hall trigger i thought it would be the same as the multi spark CDI kit a few years back from DSE... i originally wanted this but it was discontinued

I do like having the kit operate from the points because when the kit dies i can just unplug the kit and run the coil on points.
simple but it takes a minute and get me home. however the best thing is to not have it die in the first place. (mine usually die from water)

Plus i have the habit of just pulling things apart so the points are regularly adjusted

Hi jsheppard64
I think I should have explained more. The new kt has multiple triggering options and still includes points. From memory it has points, hall effect, optical and reluctor triggering options.
regards
steve

I didn't really had a look at the new CDI kit but it will be quite long lasting with your way. i guess i'm still blinded because of my "low funds decease"... i'll stop embarassing myself now

I use one of these http://www.123ignition.com.au/  in my morris mini its been awsome sofar and thinking i will get one for the bug when i get to fixing it up.