Hey guys, I'm sure a lot of you are well aware of these stats, but it might be of some interest to some of the others that don't!
Enjoy!

god damn those figures are way off
a 1200 doesnt have a hope of pulling 80mph let alone a 1300 without a tailwind

1302 and 1303 supers can make 90mph, ive proved that out in several

i find this ones alittle more accurate

Hi

The 1st fugues didn't make sense with a 1302 & 1303 both being the same, Ive had a stock 1303 up to 100 mph easily and a 1303 is much more slippery than a 1302.

Steve

How come mexican are faster? Fig 1
is it a fuel injected or something?

iv done 130km's easy in my 1303, and i know it could go more.

I found this in a random book store and had a hard enough time getting it out of there undetected

Good to see some proper stats!

Enjoy Guys!

They build numbers look wrong as well

900,000 1302 and 1303s???

As usual, who ever came up with those figures....
isn't correct...

and oval window beetles were NOT made until 1965??

1200 beetles were made right up to the last beetle made at Emden factory which was a 1200 standard beetle.

the 1302S had much worse air resistance than the standard beetle body... the large nose made a difference...

Mexican beetles ran on ethanol and the metal on Mexican beetles was a lot thinner.. so they would be faster...

maybe this guys?? calculator was wrong..?? or He just got it all wrong..

many figures in the books I have are incorrect...

plus many book writers really know nothing about VWs..
so, any Glaring mistake isn't noticed....

LEE


PS: what is the name of the book and who wrote it? Lee

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Originally posted by Joel god damn those figures are way off a 1200 doesnt have a hope of pulling 80mph let alone a 1300 without a tailwind 1302 and 1303 supers can make 90mph, ive proved that out in several i find this ones a little more accurate

The handbook for the 1967 Australian 1300 Deluxe I used to have quotes a top speed and cruise speed of 75mph.

Also I've had an indicated 90mph in my 70 with a 1300 in it... sure speedo's can be out, but by 15mph !?!?!

Yes

VW always used to advertise in the 50s and 60s that the top speed and the cruising speed were the same....

No other vehicle back then could advertise the same thing unless they had an overdrive top gear...
which was an optional extra in some cars...

LEE

Not too sure of the book! It was one of those "50 Classic Cars" style books, and before I had to start work I had a quick flick, I can find out if anyone is super interested? Though with the lack of reliability I doubt it :P

figures are totally wrong

I hit 86mph downhill in my stock 1970 1500 and could've gone faster but the engine sounded like it was going to explode! That thing was so worn I was running 40W70 oil and #3 cylinder was down to about 70psi compression. I believe that a stock one in good condition could do it on the flat, so that top speed number is about right. As others have said though, some of those numbers are just ludicrous.

I've got the 1965 version of the VW-issued "Without Guesswork" book for dealer service departments, and that claims that the maximum speed of a 34hp Beetle is 72mph at 3870 rpm, with 0-100km/h in 37 seconds. The other performance figure they give is hill climbing ability on a sealed road. Apparently the 34hp Beetle is good for a 43.5% grade in 1st gear.

Similarly the Type 2/1200 Kombi is rated at 60mph for the 34hp version and can climb a 26% grade with the full 3/4 ton in the back! The 1500cc Type 2 is rated at 26% grade hill-climbing with a full ton load.

This is a scan of an Australian VW brochure from 1974. It lists the 1300 Beetle's top speed as 77 mph (124 km/h), and the Superbug L's top speed as 81 mph (130 km/h).

In other Australian brochures, the 1200 Beetle's top speed is 72 mph (116 km/h); the '66-67 1300 Beetle's is 75 mph (121 km/h); the 1500 Beetle's is also 75 mph (121 km/h); the Superbug S's top speed is 81 mph (130 km/h), exactly the same as the later Superbug L. However the semi-auto is only 77 mph. The '76 1600 Beetle's top speed is 81 mph (130 km/h).

The Country Buggy's top speed, listed in the Australian brochure, was just 64.6 mph (104 km/h).

VWs were renowned for 'loosening up' after say 10,000 miles and were faster than when they were new and tight. The road tests of the day would have been done when the cars were new, and low-mileage. Also, don't forget that speedos normally read around 10% fast.

The 1200 Standard Beetles that were raced at Bathurst were never brand-new; they always had a few thousand miles on them, and they were faster.

I find this a bit tough to believe cause i recently maxed my 90mph speedo out with what i beleve is a stock 1600. And i have a full stereo and spare tyres etc in the car at the time.

Unfortunately speedos are rarely accurate - that is why people who rally cars even at club level spend $$$$s on getting speedos re-calibrated.
Best way to check speed is with GPS and you can buy then from $99.

mine.........

much was written about VWs performance back in the 50s and 60s and maybe 70's

but because of their overdrive top gear....

they could go faster down hill or on a slight decline etc...

but hills would really knock the speed OFF...
and back to 3rd gear....

VW used to say 3/4 loaded car etc...

better to say driver and one gallon of petrol - for better figures.. lol

and 40 PSI in the tyres.. lol

but 68 MPH and 72 MPH are the figures I've always remembered from VW owners manuals....

just about every book on VWs.. will list different figures....

LEE


PS: My 68 auto beetle came with front disc brakes and IRS suspension .. the car doesn;t wander all over the road with wind... or large trucks passing etc.... EXCELLENT

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