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tar76 - February 26th, 2012 at 08:17 PM

My old boy has a 71 bug that is need of lowering and a set of mags. I've been more a kombi man mostly so i'm not sure when it comes to bugs. I did a search and found a few things but not to many... from memory this has a 4 x stud pattern and a spring front end... what is the best spring height to buy to lower the front ( legal) and place to buy springs. I was thinking a 15" rim what ET etc do i need to look for, we were hoping to get somthing in black like a BRM or empi???


Bizarre - February 26th, 2012 at 08:46 PM

If it has springs it is a super.

It will be a 3 bolt front end.
Rather than put shorter springs in you lower the spring cup

Have a look at this thread

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=48798&page=1 

As for wheels - that is a different matter

A stock wheel is 4.5" and "should" be 41ET - you need to check
A lot of wheels are more like 5.5" and 20ET
ie - they stick out

Play with this
http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp 

A "good" offset is 6" and 36ET - that is what a Porsche cookie cutter is or a V Force Spider
The cookie is 5 bolt so you would need new drums and rotors

heep of 4 bolt wheels here
http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/914_wheel_types/914_wheel_types.htm 


But a 6" wheel needs a thin spring strut or hour glass springs

Also have a look at Topline
http://toplineparts.com/products/Brochure%202008.pdf 


tar76 - February 26th, 2012 at 09:07 PM

Cheers Bizarre. Is spring lowering any good? I wouldn't cut them just buy new shorten springs.


Bizarre - February 26th, 2012 at 09:13 PM

you would still need a shorter insert

I think you would find a modified strut is cheaper than new springs

Main thing is to pick the wheel you want and work around that

The way Helbus did it is your best bang for buck


tar76 - February 26th, 2012 at 09:16 PM

Can you buy modified struts in OZ?


barls - February 26th, 2012 at 09:24 PM

sure it depends on what your after. barry and i both have vforce struts. 100% adjustable.
but it all depends on your budget. i had a set that had the cup moved down 30mm worked ok. you dont really want to go more than that without other mods.


tar76 - February 26th, 2012 at 10:34 PM

Sounds like the cup cut is the way to go. Anyone know of anywhwere that does this in the bris to sunnycoast area? then is it just a matter of winding the back to suit if needed?


Bizarre - February 27th, 2012 at 07:11 AM

I would start with Custom Vee Dub

http://www.customveedub.com.au/ 


Joel - February 27th, 2012 at 12:13 PM

Unless you're planning on running big rims or tyres I would honestly just grab a pair of adjustable struts.

The VW online shop has them for $220 and you get new strut inserts with them, just fit your existing springs and upper strut tops.

If you get the cups welded and it's too low, shit happens...
but atleast adjustables you can tweak with the height afterwards.


tar76 - February 27th, 2012 at 03:34 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Joel
Unless you're planning on running big rims or tyres I would honestly just grab a pair of adjustable struts.

The VW online shop has them for $220 and you get new strut inserts with them, just fit your existing springs and upper strut tops.

If you get the cups welded and it's too low, shit happens...
but atleast adjustables you can tweak with the height afterwards.


cheers Joel i'll check them out. I only really want to take it down 2" and some nice feet. I found a set of black vforce rims that look good, can you recomend anything else mate??


Bizarre - February 27th, 2012 at 04:27 PM

if the rims look like these you need the thin springs

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d170/blue74l/Marty/100_2693.jpg


tar76 - February 27th, 2012 at 05:43 PM

Yeah there the ones. oh well back to the drawing board


Bizarre - February 27th, 2012 at 06:56 PM

no idea what postage would be but the springs are only $109 US

They are "suppose" to lower your bug between 3/4" - 1 1/2"

get the spiders and the springs and see how it looks


tar76 - February 27th, 2012 at 06:58 PM

checked out vw online and could not find them? Have you got a link Joel


Joel - February 28th, 2012 at 09:15 AM

Typical, I pass them on ebay all the time when I'm searching for other stuff then can't find them when I'm looking specifically for them.

It may have possibly been Classic VW.
George has them on his site at same price

https://www.classicveedub.com.au/cvd_new/part_detail.aspx?parts_id=16933 


Sbug 71 - March 1st, 2012 at 05:12 PM

I got a set of those adjustable struts from Classic Veedub. $220. Set them to the just past half way and I'm happy with the way it looks. I'm sure if you wanted to spend more money you would get a much better quality adjustable strut but these give you the look you want. Fitted Empi 8's to it and had to cut the stud off the bottom of the ball joint to stop it scrubbing on the inner rim though.


tar76 - March 1st, 2012 at 06:58 PM

Cheers Sbug 71, i'm going to go down that track as well. I'm thinking of maybe leaving stocko rims and get them powder coated black. I do like the look of a fat set of rear tyres and was wondering how wide can i go on the back tyre wise. I talked to volks conversion and he said i can get them widened to 6" on the rear rims.
So what do people think is the best/toughest look on 15"stokos widened or not??


Sbug 71 - March 5th, 2012 at 06:35 PM

I was going to go down the same track with the stock rims but a wheel widening person down here told me that they would have to be at least 8" wide and cost a bit as well. Don't know if that is true but it was enough to make me buy new rims. I wanted to get 5.5" stockos on the back and leave the standard ones on the front. The problem being that I could only get them in chrome and I didn't really want that. Also with the Empi's I got the rear wheel bolts are too long and need to be cut down about 10-15mm so that they don't foul on the brake shoes.

Hope some of this info helps.


tar76 - March 5th, 2012 at 06:42 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Sbug 71
I was going to go down the same track with the stock rims but a wheel widening person down here told me that they would have to be at least 8" wide and cost a bit as well. Don't know if that is true but it was enough to make me buy new rims. I wanted to get 5.5" stockos on the back and leave the standard ones on the front. The problem being that I could only get them in chrome and I didn't really want that. Also with the Empi's I got the rear wheel bolts are too long and need to be cut down about 10-15mm so that they don't foul on the brake shoes.

Hope some of this info helps.


Sure does mate thanks for the heads up. I'm looking at some 4 stud BRM's, 4.5 for the front and 5.5 for the back. I'm not sure if anyone here is rolling on these BRM's.