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VW Single Cab - Race Car Transporter
alex webster - September 23rd, 2011 at 03:30 PM

Hi guys,

New to the forum - first post - hi!

I am seeking information on specs required for a few things - all in the purpose of building a ute, like the ones back in the 50's and 60's where race cars were put on the back of a single cab kombi - most famously, Porsche.

I have an early Porsche 911 motor (2.7 litre) to put in the back to give some extra hp for pulling.

Ideally looking to find a car that has already been done, or if anyone has had experience in what to do/not do, and what is the best year (if any) to start with.

Any info for me to start my project would be greatly appreciated.

I currently have a 1955 F100 hotrod that I use as my race car transporter, and looking to sell that and replace it with the VW.

Thanks in advance :)


vassy66T1 - September 23rd, 2011 at 04:38 PM

I like your thinking.
Will be interested to see what information emerges.
I have a SC and will soon have a race car. It would be my preferred transport option.


Sides - September 23rd, 2011 at 04:50 PM

Never used it to transport a car myself, but I used to own a Kombi that had been set up for transporting race cars.

Bought it from an old racer named Ted Proctor basically just for the engine (1640 with a warmer cam)

It was a Kombi 1600 (pretty sure a lowlight) that had been damaged at the rear. Ted had just chopped behind the front seats to make it like an SC, then built a custom body behind it...all space frame and ally sheet tek-screwed/riveted onto it.

The back part of the body work from just forward of the fan shroud (T1 upright motor) sort of ramped downwards, extending about a foot or so longer than the normal Kombi would've been.

Then it just had two ramps that fitted on to get down to ground level.

I did get a beetle up on top of it once just to prove to myself it could be done... it would actually have been long enough to fit a Kombi on !!!


whathaveidone - September 23rd, 2011 at 07:38 PM

I currently have a 1955 F100 hotrod that I use as my race car transporter,


Ant photos????? Sounds like what im after!!!!!


HappyDaze - September 23rd, 2011 at 08:14 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Sides
Never used it to transport a car myself, but I used to own a Kombi that had been set up for transporting race cars.

Bought it from an old racer named Ted Proctor basically just for the engine (1640 with a warmer cam)

It was a Kombi 1600 (pretty sure a lowlight) that had been damaged at the rear. Ted had just chopped behind the front seats to make it like an SC, then built a custom body behind it...all space frame and ally sheet tek-screwed/riveted onto it.

The back part of the body work from just forward of the fan shroud (T1 upright motor) sort of ramped downwards, extending about a foot or so longer than the normal Kombi would've been.

Then it just had two ramps that fitted on to get down to ground level.

I did get a beetle up on top of it once just to prove to myself it could be done... it would actually have been long enough to fit a Kombi on !!!

A bit off-topic, Sides, but I had a talk to Ted Proctor a couple of weeks back. He is fit and well, and has gone back to being an artist [quitefamous], and lives in Bellingen. He drives a T5 camper!


alex webster - September 23rd, 2011 at 09:50 PM

@ whathaveidone - email me at aewebster @ me dot com and I will send some through! It is not cheap but it one he'll of a ride and is the talk of every race meet.

I will try and get some pics up to show what I mean but it should not be too hard to do. Might need to chop and lengthen the tray to fit the car on. What are the standard dimensions of a SC tray? Anyone?'


dubai - September 23rd, 2011 at 09:51 PM

Awesome


dubai - September 23rd, 2011 at 09:52 PM

Awesome


dubai - September 23rd, 2011 at 09:53 PM

Awesome please make one


dubai - September 23rd, 2011 at 09:56 PM

This was in the july 2011 issue of ultra VW I looked online but couldnt find shit so I took some pics with my phone and posted it hope this helps now please show me a build thread


matberry - September 23rd, 2011 at 10:35 PM

I had a 2.2 Porsche 6 powered kombi dual cab that I towed with a few times. It towed like crap. I had better results with the next motor, a 1970 cc Kombi motor with 914 heads and efi with a hot cam. The Porsche had more power but no torque. Had to rev it's ring off towing and still was a pain. The increased torque in the 2.7 will definately make a better tow rig, but I'd think the F truck may be more up to the task. The 911 engine will fit into 72 and later busses easiest. The ones with the biggest til lights. Also they fit the later T3 bus fairly easily, and these are cheaper and handle better and are way less rusty.....
Engine mounts, tinware mods and dry sump tank mounting are too easy in a bus, feel free to call if you need more info.


alex webster - September 24th, 2011 at 07:23 AM

Awesome, the pics of the Mascow Mule as almost exactly what I want to create!

@ Dubai - did it have a contact for the guys who made/own it? website?

@ matberry - a 2.2 will lack torque and need revving to produce any hp. Hence the 2.7! Also was thikning a torquey Typ4 motor.

Okay so now I need to find a suitable 72+ or T3 - scouts are out :)


whathaveidone - September 24th, 2011 at 07:43 AM

Email sent


dubai - September 24th, 2011 at 07:48 AM

on the number plate is the web site its old-car.ru I looked and couldnt find shit call the number on the back of the gate either way keep this post updated I want to see one made.


modulus - September 24th, 2011 at 07:52 AM

Here are dimensions for a '61; all split pickups will have the same dimensions.

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/data3_4_150dpi.jpg 

hth


alex webster - September 24th, 2011 at 02:57 PM

Thanks Peter - great info to have.

@ Dubai - on their site now and will email them.


Sides - September 26th, 2011 at 11:08 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by HappyDaze
A bit off-topic, Sides, but I had a talk to Ted Proctor a couple of weeks back. He is fit and well, and has gone back to being an artist [quitefamous], and lives in Bellingen. He drives a T5 camper!


Ahh, cool - good to hear he's driving a VW again... and amazing how small the world is at times !!!

Back on topic - here's a pic of Ted's setup... courtesy of oldtub356 on another thread. Not as flash as the Moscow Mule, but still pretty neat I reckon.

https://sn2files.storage.live.com/y1p_2vC6ahwKKjN9dYts9uyOkYEMgsK_Qe90u80Dl-tDu2HQu6wRwOuGFx4okfk8PKlykDsgrSrtxQW-Xaw6Ts9Lg/PROCTOR%20Kombi%20Xp
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modulus - September 26th, 2011 at 05:01 PM

Here are the basic dimensions for a bay SC:

hth


LUFTMEISTER - September 26th, 2011 at 05:38 PM

How about this set up!


vassy66T1 - September 26th, 2011 at 06:56 PM

Anyone got a spare SC lying around???

:rolleyes:

Love that last photo


waveman1500 - September 26th, 2011 at 08:20 PM

Luftmeister, that photo is fantastic. Surely the transporter has been stretched though? It looks at least a metre longer in the wheelbase than a standard single-cab. I don't think there's any way that you would fit a car neatly onto a normal single cab VW.


77dual - September 27th, 2011 at 09:05 PM

A split single, looks pretty much stock to me in regards to tray length etc. I think it's a 356 on the back? Could be something smaller though.


kombi1976 - September 29th, 2011 at 10:44 AM

For the record, the Inch Pincher SC ran a Corvair flat-6 motor. I can understand the issues with the 2.2 litre Porsche motor being un-torque. You'd need to change the cam and the compression.


alex webster - September 29th, 2011 at 11:11 AM

Done some more research on the whole extension and running gear.

You are right in that we need a car with the wider chassis rails.

Mark Poole in SA has had plenty of experience with the fitment of the 911 motors, and suggests the 2.7l will be good but thirsty - I am used to thirty with the F100 as it has a 464 big block in it!! Anything has to be better than that :)

Still looking for a suitable car - so anyone that has a 1800cc built single or twin cab, please let me know. Consider any condition but prefer a runner.


TheMiniMan - October 3rd, 2011 at 12:48 PM

I have been carrying many many many morris & leyland minis around in the back of our single-cab splittys over the last 30 odd years

this ute was our 2nd mini carrying ute, & the mini in the back of it is a turbo charged alloy V8 east-west mounted, front wheel drive car
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo201/madmatttheminiman/V8minioncombieute.jpg


& we carried this mini all the wat to the Targa Tasmania rally , & back, in the back of that same splitty
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo201/madmatttheminiman/Targathumbsup2.jpg

this was our original mini carrying splitty ute, , with P76 Alloy V8 power,,, it carried absolutely anything, absolutely anywhere :-)

http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo201/madmatttheminiman/mrkombibeach.jpg

But i suppose i`ve been cheating really, because there`s no need to lengthen a single cab to fit a mini in,,, they fit straight in like they were meant to :-)

Now we carry this thing -->
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo201/madmatttheminiman/R1buggyMtCotton.jpg

around to the race tracks in the back of this duel-cab Bay kombi,,, oh & yes it also has an Alloy V8 powering it, but a lexus quad cam :-)
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo201/madmatttheminiman/Photo0569.jpg


Klaus - October 4th, 2011 at 07:05 PM

I can get u a lowlight sc but needs work


Aspro - October 5th, 2011 at 05:21 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Klaus
I can get u a lowlight sc but needs work


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Klaus - October 11th, 2011 at 06:52 PM

whats your budget for a starter project :)


alex webster - October 12th, 2011 at 12:52 PM

open to anything at this stage!


bajachris88 - October 12th, 2011 at 01:31 PM

This is why i want a Tempo Matador! :tu:

damned if i'd be so lucky to find one haha.
Although i did find a traction engine and thought that would have been harder to track.