Exhaust system options for 1600 SP (1970 Kombi)
SummerBus - July 25th, 2012 at 05:37 PM
Hello everybody im planning to lower my very stock Kombi.It's a 1970 model with a stock 1600 SP motor.What i'm looking for is a exhaust that will
tuck up nice and high and offer clearance and a decent exhaust note also.
I plan to keep the engine stock.
What are my options please?
silver - July 25th, 2012 at 05:40 PM
stock muffler?? the noise is for everyone else but you in reality
matberry - July 25th, 2012 at 05:55 PM
For me it's an easy decision......
SummerBus - July 25th, 2012 at 06:04 PM
Aha looks good ,nice and high...is that a vintage speed set up?
tar76 - July 25th, 2012 at 06:09 PM
Sure is, and sounds so sweet on a upright motor 
matberry - July 25th, 2012 at 06:28 PM
Yep, Vintage Speed. That one is the header system that is available in 38, 42 and 48mm diameter primaries, there is a closer to stock style that uses
your old heater box's if need be. For your stock engine, fiut the heater box version or the 38mm header style, either is available with that tucked
outlet.
silver - July 25th, 2012 at 06:31 PM
600 bucks for that it would want to last for a long while
matberry - July 25th, 2012 at 07:14 PM
I do it cheaper...well a little 
. They fit well, are excellent for ground
clearance, and to date, last very well, and I feel that by design, they should last indefinately. The stock VW or Porsche big can design is very
strong compared to long individual runners. Especially in s/s that has a large coefficient of expansion.
RODZ - July 25th, 2012 at 07:17 PM
I have one of these on my lowlight tucked up nice....
binner - July 25th, 2012 at 07:51 PM
shazzam, I like the one I bought. Been 7 months since fitting to a daily driver and the can has started to discolor and get spots of black (like a
leopard). The pipe is still nice and shiny, I do polish it about every 2 weeks though.
Sound is good, performance , well I have nothing to judge it by so I will say good for now,fit was good but I had to do a few changes to the rear
engine cradle to make it fit.
In all I'm happy after 7 months, about to swap it over to my DC build. I hope it lasts atleast 5 years 
out.
SummerBus - July 25th, 2012 at 08:54 PM
Well my mind is made up,that system looks amazing and has everything i'm looking for....thanks guys .
silver - July 25th, 2012 at 08:55 PM
clearance for oil pumps??
waltermitty - July 25th, 2012 at 08:58 PM
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Well my mind is made up,that system looks amazing and has everything i'm looking for....thanks guys .
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Nice exhaust but a waste of $$ on a standard 1600 IMHO.
Look at how modified these guys engines are , hardly standard!
Mitchell
matberry - July 25th, 2012 at 09:06 PM
The lower middle one on this page is for stock heater boxes
http://store.vintagespeed.com.tw/images/stories/pdf/P04.pdf
SummerBus - July 26th, 2012 at 02:22 PM
As good as this exhaust system looks...in reality its probably too much exhaust system for my ol' donk to pull off.
Thanks for the other link Mat,this option is probably a safer,more economical option....boring ha!
I'll wait and talk to Peter at Custom Veedub before i grab one.
Thanks again for the input gents.
Bigbertha - July 27th, 2012 at 11:34 PM
Mines a mostly stock 1600 sp. I just wanted a really good exhaust that would last, sound sweet and help keep the motor cool. So I went with a vintage
speed too.
SummerBus - July 28th, 2012 at 07:12 AM
Thanks for the input Bigbertha....so you're happy with the result?
matberry - July 28th, 2012 at 07:45 AM
The Vintage Speed muffler is absolutely fine on a stocker, as long as you buy the correct model, they are designed for stock application.
The one person/idiot that says they are too big needs to get his facts right BEFORE posting. (sorry Waltermitty, can't hide behind that avatar and
get away with baseless comments)
Bigbertha - July 28th, 2012 at 10:33 AM
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Thanks for the input Bigbertha....so you're happy with the result?
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Wish I could tell you . I'm happy with the look, but the motor isn't back in yet. I'm itching to start it up and hear it purr. I don't know of
anyone who hasn't been happy with vintage speed.
tar76 - July 28th, 2012 at 10:45 AM
RodZ bus is stock and i don't think he has any worries. I have a standard 1800 fitted with a VS on my bus and my bus runs good no dramas
matberry - July 28th, 2012 at 11:30 AM
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RodZ bus is stock and i don't think he has any worries. I have a standard 1800 fitted with a VS on my bus and my bus runs good no dramas
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And your 1600 in the beetle is stock heads with Kadrons, so if the exhaust was too big it would make the Kaddies run poorly
waltermitty - July 28th, 2012 at 12:19 PM
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The Vintage Speed muffler is absolutely fine on a stocker, as long as you buy the correct model, they are designed for stock application.
The one person/idiot that says they are too big needs to get his facts right BEFORE posting. (sorry Waltermitty, can't hide behind that avatar and
get away with baseless comments)
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So I'M an idiot who is hiding and making baseless comments ?
Well you might be well qualified to make that judgement!
However you should first READ the original post SummerBus asked about an exhaust for a stock SP 1600 engine.
Also RE READ my posts, I always use my name I am hiding behind nothing and I have nothing to hide from and I am however not interested in self
promotion.
My comments were inresponce to yours, as you apparently failed to READ the original post, you posted an engine that appears far from stock.
The exhaust on it , would not be suitable for his stock 1500 sp in fact that exhaust wouldnt even fit ! it looks like a Type 4 exhaust to me.
Also READ my post again, I didn't say anything about that exhaust being "too big" as you claim I did? So who is the one making baseless comments
and not checking the facts?.
You were more helpful in your later posting pointing out that VS are available in different specification and yes the correct VS would be fine on his
engine, so would a stock exhaust as i first stated and it wouldnt cost $600.
I suggest you read everything before you shoot your mouth of and get YOUR facts right!
Or are you just hoping to sell a $5-$600 exhaust?
Walter Mitchell Montgomery
Mitchell
57oval - July 28th, 2012 at 02:57 PM
http://store.vintagespeed.com.tw/index.php?page=shop.product_details&flyp...
$415au + $94au shipping, $509 
binner - July 28th, 2012 at 07:20 PM
BRAAAAAP......BRAAAAAP... goes and gets popcorn and a comfy chair. 
SummerBus - July 29th, 2012 at 01:23 PM
Just havin a bit of fun with some oldschool photoshop using a scapel and stickytape..a bit crude but you get the idea.I'm thinkin 5 or 6 inches all
around but we'll see.
RODZ - July 29th, 2012 at 07:09 PM
Awesome pic/crop/photoshop but that's more than 5 - 6 inches, to get this low your going to have to chassis notch and seat pan tub.
I wanted to go this low but took mine down as low as could without major mods..... it may come in the future thou.
matberry - July 29th, 2012 at 07:39 PM
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posted by matberry
The Vintage Speed muffler is absolutely fine on a stocker, as long as you buy the correct model, they are designed for stock application.
The one person/idiot that says they are too big needs to get his facts right BEFORE posting. (sorry Waltermitty, can't hide behind that avatar and
get away with baseless comments)
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So I'M an idiot who is hiding and making baseless comments ?
Well you might be well qualified to make that judgement!
However you should first READ the original post SummerBus asked about an exhaust for a stock SP 1600 engine.
Also RE READ my posts, I always use my name I am hiding behind nothing and I have nothing to hide from and I am however not interested in self
promotion.
My comments were inresponce to yours, as you apparently failed to READ the original post, you posted an engine that appears far from stock.
The exhaust on it , would not be suitable for his stock 1500 sp in fact that exhaust wouldnt even fit ! it looks like a Type 4 exhaust to me.
Also READ my post again, I didn't say anything about that exhaust being "too big" as you claim I did? So who is the one making baseless comments
and not checking the facts?.
You were more helpful in your later posting pointing out that VS are available in different specification and yes the correct VS would be fine on his
engine, so would a stock exhaust as i first stated and it wouldnt cost $600.
I suggest you read everything before you shoot your mouth of and get YOUR facts right!
Or are you just hoping to sell a $5-$600 exhaust?
Walter Mitchell Montgomery
Mitchell
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Walter ...chill. You did state that it was too big in your opinion. I had already said that there are 4 different sizes of systems both when I posted
the pic of the dual carb 1776 in the bus and then again in my second post. I had also already took into acount his small engine and I had all my facts
right as opposed to you. I really don't need to defend myself or my post as it's all correct. Maybe the idiot reference was harsh, so I appologise
it that offended you, but if you had actually had a problem with a VS system that was properly sized to your engine you wouldn't have posted because
they work extremely well, 'when sized correctly to your specific requirement'.
The 'hide behind your avatar' comment was purely tongue in cheek badly timed joke. Your avatar has been the subject of many a discussion. Most
can't even read your posts due to not being able to concentrate as your avatar draws your eyes like a demon ..... a very nice one at that.
Sorry everyone else for the delay in posting....that popcorn hopefully didn't get too soggy. Been down in the shed all weekend. 
Back to normal programming...
waltermitty - July 30th, 2012 at 08:28 AM
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Nice exhaust but a waste of $$ on a standard 1600 IMHO.
Look at how modified these guys engines are , hardly standard!
Mitchell
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Mat,
Thanks for your qualified apology.
Nice you have admitted you were wrong.
However it seems you still haven't read my post ( see above). Where do I state that the VS is too big for a 1500 sp?
Perhaps you could follow your own advice and check your facts before your post.
Until then you are the pot calling the kettle.
Enough on the subject from me. Have the last say if you must but Ive signed off.
Mitchell
h - July 30th, 2012 at 08:39 AM
soo.. what did you end up looking at getting after that long winded made a wrong turn at Albuquerque blah blah..?
made a decision yet
those shiny VS do look sexy though
Klaus - July 30th, 2012 at 02:12 PM
not to mention gearbox scraping and rear engine hanger and drag link oh and beam side plates ...been there scraped it all