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type 3's in the hot summer - Question
Petey - November 17th, 2007 at 12:32 PM

Hi there,
I have just recently bought myself a squareback and since this will be my first summer with it (or any volksie for that matter) I thought I'd better ask a few heat related questions.
Firstly, are these cars prone to overheating? And if so how could you tell, seeing there is no temp gauge?

Also inside the car, does anyone have any good methods for keeping relatively cool? I'm guessing theres no way you could hook up any air conditioning and I'm also guessing that the vents probably drift out hot air from the engine...
So what do you do to keep it cool?

Also, does anyone have a dashboard that isn't cracked :)

Pete


Rocket - November 18th, 2007 at 08:36 AM

Not as bad as a Type 1.Make sure the rear bellows are coupled up and A1.I blanked off the two heater outlets from the fan cover to help.You can get aftermarket temp guages.Normally reading from heads or sump.Should be no trouble down the far South.


electricmonk - November 18th, 2007 at 12:04 PM

I have seen a few Type3's with Air Con (Mostly in the US) Seems there was a dealer option for it. I also think I have seen a few photos of "modified" units mounted to the motor. So it can be done. However don't forget that water based cars seem to run a lot hotter with the air con switched on.
As for heat and the motor, Make sure you have all the tin, engine in good tune, bellows hare intact and connected (as said above
Are you running extractors or stock exhaust?
If stock make sure the outlets on the fan shroud are connected to the heater boxes.
If you don't have the heater boxes then block off the fan shroud outlets. For a temporary fix you can use the lids from spray cans and large hose clamps. You may be able to get something a little more sturdy from your local hardware store.


jo_tas - November 18th, 2007 at 09:43 PM

I was driving my notchback in 30+ heat the other day up big long highway hills, faiirly hard with no problems at all.
And it has a crappy monza exhuast which probably makes it run hotter.
So that whole thing about Type 3's running hot is just crap.


Petey - November 18th, 2007 at 11:27 PM

thanks guys,
I've just had a few problems with older cars overheating and i guess the fact that there is no temp gauge kinda worries me (because this is my first vw). But if there is generally not much of an issue, then thats good news! I guess now i only have to worry about overheating myself in it :)
Personally I prefer the windows option to AC.
As for the engine/exhaust I am pretty sure its all standard.


jo_tas - November 19th, 2007 at 08:52 AM

Also make sure it is well tuned, if anything to run slightly rich because VW engines run cooler rich (any engine does i think)


VWCOOL - November 19th, 2007 at 05:19 PM

The biggest precaution with Type 3s is making sure the big rubber bellow thingy from the body to the engine is secure. It is held on with very long hose clamps and if they come loose, the bellows can can fall off and block the fan and overheat the engine.

Other than that, no real worries as long as everything is 'factory' and working correctly


Klaus - November 19th, 2007 at 09:19 PM

never had any probs with overheating, as said before make sure its tuned right and everythings hooked up.
And I have a crack free dash from a 68 that will have to be pried from my cold dead hands. Took me 10 cars to buy to find one and the loss of a 77 baywindow , i have another which only has one crack but you have to buy the car to get it (73 scruffy but very solid wagon)


Liam_81 - November 21st, 2007 at 06:28 AM

My brother is a vw mechanic, he mentioned to me last night in this weather it is best to use premium unleaded fuel. I was going to ask him why this helps but he had to go, so once I find out I will let you all know.

Keep cool :)


Petey - November 22nd, 2007 at 09:52 AM

I think premium unleaded is just better for your engine all round, apparatly you also get more miles per gallon but I'm not sure. I don't know how it goes with the lead replacement?


jo_tas - November 22nd, 2007 at 10:07 AM

I've run my car on premium unleaded without an additive for over 3 years now and have never had a problem.
And i do ALOT of miles!


avwboy - November 22nd, 2007 at 11:12 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by jo_tas
I've run my car on premium unleaded without an additive for over 3 years now and have never had a problem.
And i do ALOT of miles!


have also been running every one of my cars on premium without additives for the past 7 years
i will never run a non-premium fuel in a car of my own


Petey - November 22nd, 2007 at 12:35 PM

Cool, so it might actually be ok to skip the additive? Provided you go with premium?
I would much prefer to do that.


vwkg - November 22nd, 2007 at 01:01 PM

I always run my KG on Premium with FlashLube from BP.
Always goes great


MY68VW - November 23rd, 2007 at 08:39 PM

I've found that aircooled VWs don't mind the summer heat, the engine runs hotter than watercooled anyway, you can't boil the radiator! Keep the engine clean (dirt and oil build up), and replace the fuel lines to avoid fire.


Rota_Motor - November 26th, 2007 at 07:30 PM

bloody hell, I hit the clear field button instead of reply.

we ran Danielles car for a long way in hot weather- was fine.

premium is a good idea in all cars designed for use with leaded fuels due to the higher octane - regular unleaded may cause preignition and engine failure.

valve saver may not be needed in japanese or euro cars from the seventies, because they went to unleaded well before australia.

my original post was alot more detailed, but I lost it and CBF writing it all again.