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Solex Vs Webbers
jimmy - September 23rd, 2002 at 11:46 PM

Hey VW bros,

I'm sick of webbers due to excessive tuning requirements and poor reliability. I have a 2.2l type 4 in a beetle (mildly worked) and don't whether to go solex. I am also thinking about injection, who does it well and how much does it cost?


kombi_kid - September 24th, 2002 at 08:07 AM

after market fuel injections are very expensive (dont know exact figure) maybe a type 3 or type 2 fuel injection could work?
if you went to smaller solexs obviously wouldnt get as good performance out of your motor!
cheers
rhys
p.s. what size carbies you using? if you want to sell them my bro is after some maybe


Bizarre - September 24th, 2002 at 10:11 AM

I may be wrong but what Solex were you thinking of?
I wouldnt have thought they would feed it.
What weber / linkage set up do you have?


56astro - September 24th, 2002 at 12:28 PM

Aren't "Kadrons" actually Solex carbies?


Buggy Boyz - September 24th, 2002 at 01:08 PM

thay are and they bolt onto the standard type 4 manifolds as well. They are a pretty good setup for a type 4 engine if you are after something bigger than standard.
I would have to ask what probs your webbers are giving you though, they should not need that much tuning once setup they should be fine. Jetting don't just change..


70AutoStik - September 24th, 2002 at 08:59 PM

Never heard of Webers described as unreliable before - except by a crooked mechanic who ripped off a girlfriend. As for FI, I've calculated a good system, using Aussie components, can be built for about $3-3500.00 (if you're a little clever and can get TIG done for a reasonable price.) If you decide to go this way, here's a tip - falcon injectors have about the perfect flow rate for a 1.6-2l engine, are readily available, cheap and reliable. I do plan to go this way eventually, but I need to complete the engine and run it in first. If you don't think you can handle the technical details, there used to be a mob called "Hellbug" who did Haltech systems - but I'm not sure how active they are now (website hasn't been updated in years.)


Che Castro - September 24th, 2002 at 10:00 PM

yeah i think Jeff(think thats his name) just does mobile work now, so just give em a call


Baja Wes - September 25th, 2002 at 04:38 PM

Jimmy is another person who clicked on the report post button instead of reply, so his reply was sent as a problem report to the board admin. Jimmy, hit the right button next time.

Jimmy meant to say;
Brad,

The idle is very rough with the engine shaking heaps. There is some flat
spotting under acceleration. I presume by the exhaust colour that it is also a rich mixture.
Regards,
Jimmy


What fuel are you running Jimmy? All fuels give a black exhaust now. The grey colour came from lead which is no longer used. I would pay a reliable shop to tune your webers and I'm sure you'll be happy with them again.


Monsterbus - September 25th, 2002 at 05:09 PM

I heard Jeff had stopped working on VW's altogther and has moved up to Coffs or somewhere in Northern NSW. A guy I work with is friends with him.

Cheers
Steve


56astro - September 26th, 2002 at 10:46 AM

Mmmmmmmm??

Coffs, you say?


amazer - October 3rd, 2002 at 11:59 PM

yeah jeff and hellbug is no longer trading.
not coffs but up that way, wont be trading up there either.

standard kombi and type 3 injectors should do you well. Haltech systems are supplied by EFI technology at taren point. Throttle bodies will go straight on your webber manifolds (dont come with the system). Will be easy install. Relatively.

I ran webbers for years no problems at all. Just did oil changes and valves every 6 months. didnt touch carbs. How old are yours? I imagine a worn out set of webers is just as bad as a worn out set of solexs, dellortos...

[Edited on 3-10-2002 by amazer]


jimmy - October 4th, 2002 at 12:19 AM

Thanks for the info Amazer. How much do you think it would cost to set that system up? Also do you have the phone number for those guys who sell them? Have you seen a good example of these systems in a type 4 engined bug?