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Kev's Turbo Fuel Injected Engine Build (Update 14/12/14)
Camo - May 15th, 2014 at 07:24 PM

Hi all,

Firstly this is not going to be a full on engine build thread with everything written or photographed as there is lots of those type threads already on the internet if you do a search. It's more a quick overview of the process with photos telling most of the story.

Link here to previous parts that arrived since last year.

Quick list of recent main parts (Supplied by Rod Penrose) :

CB Performance Aluminium Case
Pauter Roller Rockers
Scat Wedge mated Crank, Flywheel and Gland nut
Scat 'H' Beam Rod
Scat Chromoly Head Studs
AA 92mm thick wall cylinders
AA Forged (really) pistons to suit
CB Mini Wedge Port heads
Engle TCS 20 cam and Followers


Most of the fuel injection stuff is from the 'VW Speed Shop' in Great Britian. ECU, wiring, coils and sensors from the USA.

This long process started around November 2013 when I pulled the motor out of my car that I had intended to convert to turbo, injected etc. After pulling the engine down and inspecting, it did not have the internals that I was told it had when I purchased it as a completed running motor. The parts were good for what it was, but not for what I am planning on doing. I then had months to wait for some of my parts to arrive from the good old US of A.

This is just a mock up of the Turbo exhaust to see how it fits and to make sure the Turbo was going to clear my rear valance before I pulled old motor out.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/levin4kevin/IMG_8634_zpsdc237b25.jpg


Parts finally arrived and the long preparation process of blueprinting the engine begins.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/levin4kevin/IMG_9931_zps33b801f9.jpg


The engine case havles themselves need modifications. The oil pump pickup hole is misaligned and as were the main journal oil supply holes. The black texta lines are indicating where the actual bearing oil groove lies. Both needed porting to match up.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/levin4kevin/IMG_9926_zpse0d9a4f4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/levin4kevin/cfbd71ef-c225-452a-8dbb-224e2e51006d_zpsac9a6b7f.jpg


A modification to the Cam followers allowing more oil to pass through and up to the rocker gear. This aids in lubrication, but also aids in increased cooling of the heads.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/levin4kevin/IMG_0012_zps7afff669.jpg


The camshaft needs to be clearanced in 8 positions to stop the conrod big ends hitting it due to larger crank stroke.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/levin4kevin/IMG_0069_zps8df15ccc.jpg


Camshaft bolts also need clearancing to make sure they dont kiss the oil pump.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/levin4kevin/IMG_0055_zps1576f993.png


Checking the cam lift to make sure it is the same as the supplied information card.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/levin4kevin/IMG_0181_zpsc97f70f9.jpg



Bolted top half of case on and checked cam shaft and crank shaft end floats. And about to check deck height to see what I have to start with. Obviously way to much, but needed to work out how much material I need to remove to obtain the desired compression (deck height).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/levin4kevin/IMG_0183_zps383cfdd9.jpg

Then time for cleanup so as the assembly process can begin.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/levin4kevin/IMG_0254_zps94c89cd6.jpg


Although this doesn't show a time line, there is a lot of work involved to getting the engine case and components to this stage. This actually took me weeks to here as only working on it here and there. Beginning of the assembly process. Also as going full flow from the oil pump, need to fit threaded plugs into case and oil pump.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/levin4kevin/IMG_0271_zps00d7ecd0.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/levin4kevin/IMG_0275_zps84fba73d.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/levin4kevin/IMG_0277_zpsb3bd45e1.jpg


Case halves finally together, oil pump fitted.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/levin4kevin/IMG_0282_zps2b165915.jpg


Then started fitting a few of the external accessories. Deep sump, oil cooler adaptor, crank angle sensor parts.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/levin4kevin/IMG_0322_zps1ad1bca4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/levin4kevin/IMG_0327_zpsbc83bf91.jpg


Added an extra external oil cooler to the car.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/levin4kevin/IMG_0332_zps1a616f33.jpg


Checking ring clearance and adjusting to suit. Case savers and barrels (no pistons) fitted to engine case as mockup to check head stud bolt lengths.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/levin4kevin/IMG_0374_zps71768a14.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/levin4kevin/IMG_0393_zpsa8e0ba15.jpg


As you can see here, the head bolts are to long and all need to be shortened.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/levin4kevin/IMG_0402_zps7db822e7.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/levin4kevin/IMG_0416_zps0990257a.jpg


All rings fitted back onto pistons and pistons fitted into barrels. Then barrels and pistons fitted to engine.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/levin4kevin/IMG_0420_zps99cfe015.jpg


As of today, heads now bolted on for last time with new pushrod tubes and seals.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/levin4kevin/IMG_0426_zps3164a595.jpg


Just sat rockers on quickly to see how they look and I love it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/levin4kevin/IMG_0430_zpscd7f6a75.jpg


As I said, this engine build process has taken me about 2 months working on it when I can. If you ever have anyone build you a half decent motor and ask why it cost so much, I can vouch there is a lot of work involved and more then I had realised.

I will continue to update over time and when new things are added or changed. Hope this hasn't been too much in one post and bored people.

Cheers, Kev


AUSSIE_MICK - May 15th, 2014 at 08:10 PM

:tu:


Craig Torrens - May 15th, 2014 at 08:41 PM

:tu:


Bizarre - May 15th, 2014 at 08:45 PM

Can you leave the rocker covers off?

Those roller rockers look cool :tu::tu::tu:

:dork:


TorxKiwi - May 15th, 2014 at 08:56 PM

It's like automotive porn ;)


vw54 - May 16th, 2014 at 07:41 AM

coming along nice


Shuffs - May 16th, 2014 at 08:18 AM

Well done Kev:tu:
For one horrible moment there,I thought,you're a brave man doing it in the kitchen,but as I scrolled down I can see you have a very well set up Man Cave


fish26 - May 16th, 2014 at 09:54 AM

Looking good mate, did you set up rocker geometry before you buttoned everything up? Otherwise you run the risk of wiping the cam lube off


rickp - May 16th, 2014 at 08:12 PM

:tu::tu: hope to someday be patient enough to build something like this. Well done Camo


mandog - May 18th, 2014 at 08:30 PM

Good job mate, just finished similar project with CB magna fuel and spark. It is a lot of work. What injection? Maybe I missed it.
Good luck with it all.


Camo - May 20th, 2014 at 04:08 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by mandog

What injection? Maybe I missed it.



Photos of my EFI stuff are in the link at the top, but here it is again ;)

http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=103555&page=1#pid973090

Kev


HappyDaze - May 20th, 2014 at 04:30 PM

Nice going, Kev.....nothing much more to do - looks like we'll see the car at Wakefield Park on Saturday, then ? :smirk:


Subarugears - May 20th, 2014 at 04:49 PM

Hey Kev, good to meet you at Vintage yesterday. Engine build looks sweet!


pete wood - June 5th, 2014 at 04:49 PM

Nice stuff mate.


Camo - June 6th, 2014 at 05:51 PM

Thanks Todd, Pete and others.

This was just setting up geomertry for the roller rockers. Half lift and then set adjustable pushrod so as rod is inline with rocker adjusting stud.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/levin4kevin/IMG_0452_zps78d1e33a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/levin4kevin/IMG_0459_zps11007140.jpg

Have done a little more, fitted up tinware and carbies for breakin test run on stand. Hopefully by early next week I will fire her up, all depends on family commitments this weekend.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/levin4kevin/IMG_0490_zps2f2e3992.jpg

Kev


vassy66T1 - June 7th, 2014 at 08:57 AM

Awesome ;)


cam070 - June 7th, 2014 at 09:01 AM

Lookin good Kev


Camo - June 13th, 2014 at 05:31 PM

Had all the chromoly pushrod tubes cut (machined) to length. The machine shop rang and offered to fit all the tips for me, but I asked them not to. Look at all the metal shavings that came out of them. Imagine if this went through your engine or blocked the oil supply through the pushrods and you had no oil getting to the rockers.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/levin4kevin/IMG_0498_zpsa65904a5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/levin4kevin/IMG_0497_zpsc3fff529.jpg

Now that I finally had my pushrods back I could install them and finally fit up my new lovely roller rockers. Look at this photo, can you see the new problem that arose.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/levin4kevin/IMG_0538_zps35c41efa.jpg

That's right, now there is no way my standard steel vw rocker covers are going to fit with those long cam lock down nuts. They are actually made for bolt on rocker covers. And to add to this, the bigger (thicker) rockers also touch on full lift at pushrod end.

But guess what, I have a spare pair of alloy bolt on covers here and those nuts are still to long. Take the nuts back off again and have them machined down 5.5mm (more delays) so I can finally get some covers to fit on there.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/levin4kevin/IMG_0559_zps83b462cf.jpg

As you can see above, getting very close to start up. Wired up coil, tacho etc. Just need to get a oil pressure switch and some fuel line, add oil and fire her up.

But I feel this has been the easy part getting to here. I think wiring in heaps of wires to the ECU, throttle position sensor, air temp sensor, crank angle sensor, cam angle sensor, oxygen sensor, head temp sensor, map sensor, 4 x coils, 4 x injectors, water pump for intercooler (radiator for this still to be fitted) and whatever else I have forgotten will be the harder part.

But I will get there, eventually :fakesniff::fakesniff::fakesniff::fakesniff::fakesniff:

Kev

P.S. I would like to also say another thank you to Rod Penrose for his assistance. I needed to borrow a couple of things to assist the engine build and more so I could get to this stage (exhaust) and he was more than willing to help :tu::tu::tu:

P.S.S. Also to AUSSIE_MICK for lending me the tacho. If I don't say it, he might have a bit of a whinge :lol: :lol::lol:


hellbugged - June 13th, 2014 at 06:44 PM

Nice work Kev :tu: thanx for posting, takes time and effort to do so, but makes for a much needed "go to read" here.

Neat wiring takes a lot longer than you would think, so be patient.


vlad01 - June 13th, 2014 at 07:11 PM

EFI and electronics is the fun and easy part i reckon :dork:


Camo - June 13th, 2014 at 08:14 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by vlad01
EFI and electronics is the fun and easy part i reckon :dork:


Well, do you need a holiday in Sydney :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:


vlad01 - June 13th, 2014 at 11:50 PM

nah, no way going near that dump! :lol:


vw54 - June 14th, 2014 at 08:48 AM

Top work its rewarding to do the job your self


Camo - June 16th, 2014 at 06:12 PM

Hi all,

it's alive - YEAH :yes::yes::yes::yes:

As I said, I have the engine set up on a stand and started it up today. Still just using carbies, distirbutor and different exhaust for the break in period.

These videos don't give a true sound at all, it sounds very crisp and I am very happy with it. I think it does sound better in this first clip than the second one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r747aDlfdHA 

another one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHXqq9yq5PQ 

Kev


PAZZAN - June 16th, 2014 at 06:42 PM

Great job, there just something about a tuff aircooled vw ,sounds sweet:tu::tu:


reub - June 16th, 2014 at 09:10 PM

Congrats dude!


AUSSIE_MICK - June 17th, 2014 at 07:10 AM

I have only one thing to say, scratch:lol:
Sorry guys, private joke!


cnfabo - June 17th, 2014 at 11:21 AM

Ah that sweet sound of clackity clack..love it..can't wait for turbo time..are u running a muffler off the turbo or dump pipe if that's what they are called?? I personally think they sound better with a muffler...have fun

Fabo...


Camo - June 17th, 2014 at 03:53 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by cnfabo

are u running a muffler off the turbo or dump pipe if that's what they are called?? I personally think they sound better with a muffler...have fun Fabo...


I'm pretty sure I will be running a muffler, as I think it will be to loud for my liking without one. Although I must say, they sound hot without one but that DB level is more for drag strip I think.

Time will tell :smilegrin:


GottaSplit - June 18th, 2014 at 12:49 PM

Muffler for street.. dump pipe for track ;):smilegrin::tu: