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Big engine in a small car?
KalgoorlieGreg - October 28th, 2016 at 08:18 PM

Hey all,

I'll admit that I'm a noob with VW engine swapping, and have looked with minimal success. Is there a simple write up on putting bigger engines from later vans (around the 2L mark) into earlier Beetles? Or why it's just too hard?!

Or, what are some good engine upgrades for a street car, not a race car!

Cheers, Greg.


helbus - October 28th, 2016 at 09:06 PM

If you stick with the original style Type 1 engine case, it is easy. You can get some cracker street engines for a Beetle. I was soft and went for an "improved" engine rather than a racier one. A 1776cc build just makes the driving a bit better with some extra power when you need it. Go up to 1916 or even heaps bigger and you can really get your Beetle moving with some fun performance. Upgrade your clutch, exhaust, carbies, gearbox, brakes, suspension and few other bits, and you will have fun. Everything costs money though.


coletrickle - October 29th, 2016 at 07:33 AM

Ive had a few hot street t1 beetles fastest was a fairly good 2332 140ish at the wheels it was a mental car on the street and big power = big dollars and also a big dollar box.If i was starting from scratch id do a nice little 1600.The best motor i ever had imo was my 1600 it was 7,5-1 compression factory ported heads 45dells it went 14.89 for the 1/4.Type 1 engines will be eaiser in the long run type 4 can be done but its all custom and expensive or there is a wrecker conversion i saw years ago to do a type 4 in a bug it worked but was ugly. Goodluck.


KalgoorlieGreg - October 29th, 2016 at 03:15 PM

To ask the obvious question, why is the T4 engine hard to fit into a Beetle?


Smiley - October 29th, 2016 at 05:42 PM

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Originally posted by KalgoorlieGreg
To ask the obvious question, why is the T4 engine hard to fit into a Beetle?


It's not.

Just takes some time to deal with some of the little issues that crop up.
Have put one in dad's bug this year and it is great. Goes like a freight train.
I don't think I will ever have a Type 1 powered car again. Not unless I am keeping things original for a restoration.


Smiley :)


grumble - October 30th, 2016 at 05:29 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Smiley
Quote:
Originally posted by KalgoorlieGreg
To ask the obvious question, why is the T4 engine hard to fit into a Beetle?


It's not.

Just takes some time to deal with some of the little issues that crop up.
Have put one in dad's bug this year and it is great. Goes like a freight train.
I don't think I will ever have a Type 1 powered car again. Not unless I am keeping things original for a restoration.


Smiley :)

As Smiley says a stronger unit there is a little work involved but the result is awesome.


KalgoorlieGreg - October 31st, 2016 at 07:15 AM

I read something about changing the intake manifold to the T1 type for clearance, and maybe running the bus box? Something about input shaft?


grumble - October 31st, 2016 at 07:21 PM

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Originally posted by KalgoorlieGreg
I read something about changing the intake manifold to the T1 type for clearance, and maybe running the bus box? Something about input shaft?

I just ran with the standard 2 litre carburettors, made an air cleaner to suit, modified the heater boxes so that it has heaters and yes the spigot shaft bearing needs to be extended. From memory I used a Golf bearing which is longer and supports the main shaft. The exhaust system was made by the local exhaust shop with a tuck away muffler,this has since been replaced by a one off made in Sydney.