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is 17 inch clearance possible???
dak dak ute - May 26th, 2004 at 07:37 PM

i would like to know what the maximum clearance can get on a beetle, with 10r's all round, i have beeen told all that is possible is 14 inch's which i doubt.
i want to know as if i cant get my ute high, i mean real high, i will cal look it, which will be a waste in my opinion. 15 inch's at least is needed


Brad - May 26th, 2004 at 11:56 PM

mmmm of course you can..... I have 540mm of clearance under my Buggy to the lowest point which is the lowest bolt on the rear spring plate cover.

So what's that ??? about 22"

If you put 10r's up front then you ain't gunna turn real well.

http://www.offroadvw.net/mrbaja/images/Kona2.jpg
Theo's baja has around 16" of clearance

http://www.offroadvw.net/mrbaja/images/Bug-bucket.jpg
There is a 20L bucket under his baja

http://www.offroadvw.net/mrbaja/images/Bug-16-inches.jpg
and here is the clearnace to it.


Brad - May 27th, 2004 at 12:03 AM

Why do you think you need 15" of ground clearance ? Are you building a Ricer Rig ??

Ground Clearance is useless without wheel travel, no travel no traction ....

http://www.offroadvw.net/BradForum/5.jpg

Here is my Buggy Side one with the wheels 3" from full up travel. So from here I have about 7" of down travel. When at ride height I have 4" down at the front and 5" down at the rear. I may change this when I build the new pan as I have some better ideas now ..


dak dak ute - May 27th, 2004 at 09:37 AM

well in that case how do i get good clearance and still maintain travel?
and if i will have trouble steering with the 10r's on the front, what size tyres would you recomend
i need the clearance coz my mate has a jacked gq patrol i.e. 10 inch lift and digs nice mud holes everywhere to stuff everyone up


Brad - May 31st, 2004 at 10:46 AM

I am running 285 x 85 x 16 rears and 215 x 80 x 16 fronts.

To get more clearnace you build a tougher pan.... Type 181 front spindles, longer rear arms, 933 CV's clearanced bump stops, longert shocks etc etc etc


daz67 - May 31st, 2004 at 07:27 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by dak dak ute
well in that case how do i get good clearance and still maintain travel?
and if i will have trouble steering with the 10r's on the front, what size tyres would you recomend
i need the clearance coz my mate has a jacked gq patrol i.e. 10 inch lift and digs nice mud holes everywhere to stuff everyone up


Having been stuck in a bog hole left by a vehicle like your friends, all I can say is, You are trying to build the wrong type of car!!!!

I'm assuming your friends GQ also sports a very large set of tyres, if it dosen't it would look pretty stupid.

Ask around see if anyone has a picture of my Manx on the Night Navigation run, slightly bogged.


Brad - May 31st, 2004 at 09:48 PM

Buggies are fine ya just need to learn to drive them ......:P


$2.63 homebrand baja - May 31st, 2004 at 10:17 PM

how does something that high (baja at top) do on the highway travelling at speed? Do strong winds affect it? How would it handle? The centre of gravity etc? ...... watching the buggies hoon on hwy, seems nice, wide and square, like a raised go cart! (i am aware mine is ratty but the winds out my way do sometimes push it around a little...) how high is too high? (apart from monster truck excentricity)


dak dak ute - May 31st, 2004 at 10:22 PM

f it was really windy i would be pushed sideways in mine, but, nothing to major


Baja Wes - June 1st, 2004 at 12:25 PM

I wouldn't want mine any higher than it is. It already handles like a landcruiser.

Brad's buggy is different, it is also heaps wider in the track, which gives the stability back.

Mine normally runs around with about 12" of clearance. That's more than the diff / axle depth of most 4WD's, so that will keep you above most of the trouble. 12" is relatively easy to get to, going higher is when it starts costing big $$$

If you try going through ruts made by 44" swampers then your gunna get stuck no matter how much clearance you have, the ends of your trailing arms are still going to rub in the mud.

I am putting on thing front spindles, not for more clearance, but to regain some drop travel on the front end.


Anthiron - June 1st, 2004 at 12:35 PM

whats the best way to raise the rear on a swing axle baja without getting too much negative camber? or is it impossible?

Sorry to highjack:P

[Edited on 1-6-2004 by Anthiron]


Brad - June 2nd, 2004 at 08:38 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Anthiron
whats the best way to raise the rear on a swing axle baja without getting too much negative camber? or is it impossible?

Sorry to highjack:P

[Edited on 1-6-2004 by Anthiron]


Reduction Box's or IRS

in relation to jacking swingers ....

DON't DO IT >>>> it makes em to dangerous on road


daz67 - June 2nd, 2004 at 09:04 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Buggy Brad
Buggies are fine ya just need to learn to drive them ......:P


Or be given the imformation on the Bog Hole before you leap into it!!! Brad!!!:cry


Brad - June 2nd, 2004 at 10:11 PM

info ???? My hilux had no problems at all..... then again that locked Patrol with big ass mud tyres seemed to be a litlle stuck in it :P


daz67 - June 3rd, 2004 at 01:33 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Buggy Brad
info ???? My hilux had no problems at all..... then again that locked Patrol with big ass mud tyres seemed to be a litlle stuck in it :P



Thats because your Hilux drove around the Big Ass Hole.

:cussing


MikeM - June 3rd, 2004 at 01:37 PM

Ahh, so there's two sides to the story.

That's a suprise.


$2.63 homebrand baja - June 3rd, 2004 at 02:15 PM

:cry thought u guys were the hardcore buggy gods..... why didn't u just weld a quick bridge over it? Or even better a ramp? or computerised hydraulic height lifting mechanism? excuses exscuses:P

hey anthirion, don't muck round wif dem axils, raised mine once and ended up in a big fence late one rainy night..needed new body as result.... also had some seriously close calls in traffic......

I put some coil overs on festy, that helped a bit :)


11CAB - June 3rd, 2004 at 05:31 PM

Hey Daz.....nobody forced you to drive through that mud hole....there was plenty of room to drive around the Kombi as evident with Wes driving past without stopping........:P


Anthiron - June 3rd, 2004 at 10:36 PM

stock height it is then:party .......just need some bigger wheels than 14s and some all terrains..............