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Lifted/welded link pin spindles - your thoughts?

Anthiron - November 3rd, 2011 at 10:53 PM

Does anyone run modified lifted link pin spindles on an offroad car?

If so where did u get them? what do you think of them?

Blind chicken racing in the states will make them but require a core. I dont really want to send some spindles to the USA.

I think it is too much to ask to find some country buggy spindles although they would be ideal.

Nicko

handycam - November 4th, 2011 at 06:23 AM

hay mate i ran some bj ones i didnt like them in the end looked tuff as nails but there fitment is not grate i didnt think ' these were us ones

matberry - November 4th, 2011 at 08:36 AM

My 2c.

Stay away from welded stubs.

Options are convert to country buggy stubs or B/J front end

Anthiron - November 4th, 2011 at 08:47 AM

Handycam. - Can you tell me why you did'nt like them?

Matt - I was hoping you would chime in. Do you say that due to legal reasons? or safety? Are they generally not welded square/poor quality?

Looks like I may be able to get some Country Buggy spindles afterall and obviously this is ideal. Although I wont count my Chicken yet.

Not really wanting to go Ball joint.

64vwmark - November 4th, 2011 at 09:05 AM

These will raise the front by 3 inches.

http://www.mooreparts.com/store/product/1127/AC412022/

I'm not sure if they are legal on a road car. You would need to check with your engineer.

Anthiron - November 4th, 2011 at 09:11 AM

Mark - International tie rod ends? is this a ford tie rod end alot of american guys seem to run these? or does international mean it will take any VW end?

64vwmark - November 4th, 2011 at 10:15 AM

I'm not sure what they mean by that either. I haven't used them before. Moose or other off road racers would know. If you are thinking of buying some, you could always ask the seller.

64vwmark - November 4th, 2011 at 10:18 AM

These are the tie rod ends...

http://www.mooreparts.com/store/product/1236/AC425071L/

matberry - November 4th, 2011 at 02:30 PM

The Combo Stubs are the ultimate although questionable legally. The Country buggy would be my first option as they are genuine VW and definately legal here. After that, going the combo stub route, you'll add more $$$ once you start....longer arms and shocks which bring in more issues. Inter Tie rod ends are just that, International truck tie rod ends...bloody strong, and necessary with those huge stubs and big offroad rack etc etc....

The more basic baja will handle a lot of abuse with link pin beam, country buggy stubs and an improvement in tie rod ends isn't unusual, but even increased to Ford's larger parts is doable without welding or heating suspension components.

Anthiron - November 4th, 2011 at 02:38 PM

Yeah ok.

I dont want to have to make custom tie rods etc

I am thinking CB Spindles. Gusseted Steering knuckle, Stock arms, Stock tie rod ends and strengthend stock tie rods.

Hopefully I can get some CB Spindles.

Smiley - November 4th, 2011 at 03:58 PM

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Originally posted by Anthiron
Gusseted Steering knuckle

You won't even need to to this. When you see a set of CB stubs you will know why. They are very strong, almost twice as big as the Beetle ones.

Smiley

nils - November 9th, 2011 at 04:49 AM

Only complaint I have with country buggy spindles are the brakes that are attached to them. The duel slave cylinders inside them us ALOT of hyd fluid, so you will need a bigger master cylinder and even then the pedal sure does go along way on top of that I swear they never worked while rolling backwards.
So defiantly confided a set of discs in your budget

Anthiron - November 9th, 2011 at 11:26 AM

Can you not attach early beetle drums to them Nils? I was planning on keeping my drums all around for the time being.

nils - November 10th, 2011 at 05:01 AM

Afraid not, cause they are early kombi stubs basically with the steering arms facing the wrong way. I had a look at it for a while but the axles are just way too long

Anthiron - November 10th, 2011 at 09:30 AM

Ah interesting. So I would need a Split bus disc brake kit?

nils - November 10th, 2011 at 06:29 PM

Afraid so, got mine only a few weeks ago from sherman conversions. Don't know how i managed so long with those big drums on the front

Anthiron - November 10th, 2011 at 07:23 PM

Thats a handy thing to know. Cheers Nils

Smiley - November 14th, 2011 at 08:21 PM

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Originally posted by Anthiron
Ah interesting. So I would need a Split bus disc brake kit?

I'm looking into fitting a set of CB spindles to the front of my Baja. I've been messing around with how to do the brakes this afternoon. I have some Commodore stuff here that I think will fit up quiet easily. I'll keep you posted on how things progress. Might be a little cheaper than buying the conversion kits.

Smiley

bajachris88 - November 14th, 2011 at 09:35 PM

haha, discs pads and wheel bearings would be heaps cheap to replace to!!

mkII_baja - November 15th, 2011 at 08:21 AM

The CB front end that is going into my project uses the same as std ford turning trailer bearings.
Trailer bearings are NEVER very good quality so OEM or aftermarket Early Kmbi or early Ford would be much better
than trailer bearings, this allows you to use a good quality steel trailer hub on the front
I'm setting up 6 stud with a floating disk setup similar to late model 4x4's!!

Smiley - November 15th, 2011 at 10:33 PM

Commodore disc mounted to a Country Buggy spindle.

And a picture with the caliper sitting in place.

Good things are happening, watch this space.

Smiley

nils - November 16th, 2011 at 04:42 AM

Smiley, you're my hero.
But where where you 3 months ago? Before i dropped big $$$ on a kit :sniffle:

Smiley - November 17th, 2011 at 11:19 AM

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Originally posted by nils
Smiley, you're my hero.
But where where you 3 months ago? Before i dropped big $$$ on a kit :sniffle:

I was probably out offroading my Baja thinking, "damn I need more clearance, I should fit those CB spindles I have at home"

Then once I got looking into it I hated the drum design, as you have mentioned above. Not to mention how heavy they are!!

So I thought I'd looking into doing a disc conversion too.

I'm drawing up the caliper brackets today and going to see some engineers this afternoon hopefully.

Smiley

The_Bronze. - December 3rd, 2011 at 08:07 AM

This is a great thread. I'm following with interest.