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type 3 calipers
cnfabo - November 5th, 2013 at 09:11 PM

Does anyone know what the bolt spacing is for t3 calipers and piston size...I have searched the net and think the early t3 calipers are same as t1 bolt spacing and later are 3" spacing,correct??

Thanks
Fabo


1303Steve - November 5th, 2013 at 09:58 PM

Not sure of the bolt spacing dimension, all Type3s use 42 mm pistons, the early Type 3 callipers have the same bolt spacing as all Beetles


cnfabo - November 5th, 2013 at 10:46 PM

Was wondering as 914-4 guys use a BMW caliper as a upgrade.a stock 914 caliper is a t3 one but with the 3" spacing so must be the late t3 caliper ....so that means the BMW caliper will not be a bolt on deal to the bug bj spindle...

Lost ya??


1303Steve - November 6th, 2013 at 08:14 AM

Hi

the only OEM calliper that bolts onto a Beetle stub is from a UK car called a Talbot Horizon, I've tried to source these with no luck, they use a 48 mm piston.

The only other solution is to use a plate to adapt another acliper

Steve


bug68m - November 6th, 2013 at 07:53 PM

hi I put these on my 68 beetle years ago used drum brake spindles and brought adaptor plates from vintage vw give borris a ring he would know


cnfabo - November 6th, 2013 at 09:42 PM

Thanks guys


humpty - November 13th, 2013 at 11:48 PM

There's way better ways to upgrade the brakes Chris.... Cheaper, lighter and easier to source.
You know my number.


Craig Torrens - November 14th, 2013 at 12:29 PM

^ what humpty said.


Jayess - November 21st, 2013 at 12:25 AM

Check out my wanky brakes, there are cheaper options not soover the top. Im happy to show you what ive done and help you out.

Gotta have good brakes, steering and suss, engine later


Newt - December 11th, 2013 at 12:43 AM

Im curious. Second poster said that early type 3s had 42mm pistons on a type 1 spacing.

I havent heard of that before.

Is it right?

Cheers

Newt


mackaymanx - December 11th, 2013 at 12:40 PM

Yes the calipers are 42mm, most if not all of the aftermarket sellers sell the type 1 caliper as fitting the type 3. Which is not entirely correct, as the piston size is different. In '72 they went from 80 cm² to 100 cm² in the pad surface area.


1303Steve - December 11th, 2013 at 04:38 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Newt
Im curious. Second poster said that early type 3s had 42mm pistons on a type 1 spacing.

I havent heard of that before.

Is it right?

Cheers

Newt


Hi

Not many people are aware of this, even a Sydney VW specialist was unaware of it until we pushed the pistons out of a pair of Type 3 callipers, those callipers are now fitted to my sons 1303

They are twin pin like a 72 superbug but only have one bleed nipple, so the callipers are left or right handed


cnfabo - December 11th, 2013 at 08:32 PM

Cheers guys for the info...I have purchase some two pot wilwoods to try on the rear.I was thinking about selling my front brakes and also having two pot on the front but might just run what I already have and plumb in a bias valve,was originally thinking bout making a pedal box with balance bar etc,but its just more stuffing around and $$ so I'm winging it with the new combo,fingers crossed...

Thanks
Fabo


sub60 - December 12th, 2013 at 12:04 PM

I have made these pedal boxes, copy of a Tilton, been in use in rally cars for a few years and work well allowing use of any brake combination. Have a couple left, Simon knows of me.


sub60 - December 12th, 2013 at 12:27 PM

Try again


Vanders - December 14th, 2013 at 06:54 PM

Bolt spacings are different between early and late type 3's. Later type 3's have a wider spacing, and are difficult to get replacements as they don't fit anything else. They also have the bigger pads as stated in an earlier post.


mackaymanx - December 14th, 2013 at 09:10 PM

They also fit the 411 and earlier 914


Newt - December 31st, 2013 at 09:26 PM

Guys,

Just following on from the line of thought about the earlier type 3 calipers (42mm piston and type 1 spacing).

Did they run with the type 1 rotor or the thicker/larger type 3 rotor?

Ta

Newt


1303Steve - January 1st, 2014 at 09:29 AM

they use a Type 1 rotor


Newt - January 2nd, 2014 at 10:15 PM

Ahhhh! - I through some out 14 years ago - cos I didnt think they would fit. :sniffle: