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Fireball xl5 - July 29th, 2007 at 06:47 PM

what brake upgrades do people recomend for type 3's? I want to go bigger with my engine but want to get the handling and stopping as best as possible before I do. Can you get uprated pads and disks? Also how do you go about a rear disk convertion? I have a 69 square so irs rear.


jo_tas - July 29th, 2007 at 07:25 PM

I've heard that alot of porsche 944 parts bolt straight on? But i'm not sure..


1303Steve - July 29th, 2007 at 11:00 PM

Hi

If you have a pre 71 Type 3 you can fit the later front stub axles and bigger callipers. Porsche 944 rears will push out the track 26mm per side and you will need funny offset wheels to keep it under the guards. Also Richard at V Force has mentioned to me that there was another front calliper that could be used on a Type 3 along with a Porsche hub.

Steve


72type3wrx - July 30th, 2007 at 03:43 PM

hey

good call, we all need good brakes, any way i got standard 72 mdl brakes on the front and was told that 73 mdls had way bigger ones is this true?

and to fit them all that was required was different spindles off the later mdls?

any ideas?


1303Steve - July 30th, 2007 at 04:07 PM

Hi

I think that the bigger brakes came in on the Type 3 with the introduction of the high back seats and wipers on the column, so about 1972.

Below are the pad types for the Type 3 along with the chassis number that they fit.

Steve

http://www.clubvw.org.au/images/db_15.jpg

http://www.clubvw.org.au/images/db2.jpg


VWCOOL - July 30th, 2007 at 10:09 PM

Rear discs? How about some of these...

[ Edited on 30-7-2007 by VWCOOL ]


Fireball xl5 - July 31st, 2007 at 12:10 PM

would you have to adjust the brake bias if you put on a disk brake rear set up? And is the set up in the picture legal for nsw?


VWCOOL - July 31st, 2007 at 03:37 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Fireball xl5
would you have to adjust the brake bias if you put on a disk brake rear set up? And is the set up in the picture legal for nsw?


There are few sets of these on cars now and they are a good match with std front discs upgraded with good pads. Bat69 is racing on a set (hill climbs) and he seems very happy. I have a set on one of my cars (L-Bug) that I would be happy to demonstrate

Yes, ANY mods to brakes requires engineers' approval/certificate. These brakes will satisfy any engineer


Fireball xl5 - July 31st, 2007 at 06:37 PM

what is the cost of the rear set up? What wheels would you need to clear the brakes. Also what are you running on the front of your bug?


VWCOOL - July 31st, 2007 at 08:30 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Fireball xl5
what is the cost of the rear set up? What wheels would you need to clear the brakes. Also what are you running on the front of your bug?


This brakes 'kit' is designed to allow Nissan Skyline callipers to be DIY installed on a VW four-stud application for an easy upgrade for cars with standard front brakes. As such, the front brakes on mine and bat69's racer are standard discs but with good-quality front pads. These brakes fit inside 14-inch rims so anything bigger is no worries.

Cost for the machined components in the kit is $770 exchange with your old brake drums. This price includes second-hand callipers plus everything else required to get you 'on the road'. Add $125 for a kit based on brand-new hubs/no exchange.


GTMac - July 31st, 2007 at 09:40 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by VWCOOL
Quote:
Originally posted by Fireball xl5
what is the cost of the rear set up? What wheels would you need to clear the brakes. Also what are you running on the front of your bug?


This brakes 'kit' is designed to allow Nissan Skyline callipers to be DIY installed on a VW four-stud application for an easy upgrade for cars with standard front brakes. As such, the front brakes on mine and bat69's racer are standard discs but with good-quality front pads. These brakes fit inside 14-inch rims so anything bigger is no worries.

Cost for the machined components in the kit is $770 exchange with your old brake drums. This price includes second-hand callipers plus everything else required to get you 'on the road'. Add $125 for a kit based on brand-new hubs/no exchange.


Do they have a similar setup for hand brake as do the Falcon setup?


VWCOOL - July 31st, 2007 at 10:06 PM

yeah mate they do; same principle but actually I reckon it works a little better. But the overall disc is smaller and thinner than Falcon that makes it a better match for standard Beetle/Type 3 front discs


Fireball xl5 - August 1st, 2007 at 06:12 PM

where can you get the kit from?
Also what pads do you recomend for the fronts? and is it worth looking out for a set of late front callipers for the larger pad foot?