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 bajachris88
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Remember the Australian Automotive Enthusiasts Party on election day
Its about time we stand for a say for our rights to enjoy our automotive passion without being deliberate targeted and without further tightening
beaurocrisy against vehicle enthusiasts and their cars.
I understand only a minority of police are scoundrels, most are great, just like automotive enthustiasts, there are minority groups of idiots that
ruin it.
However, we need a say. Remember the Australian Automotive Enthusiast Party on election day. This guy says it all:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFZfun86c8o
Thanks for listening,
Chris.
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| posted on August 27th, 2013 at 08:19 PM |
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hell would freeze over first, we need people to run the country properly not our cars
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| posted on August 27th, 2013 at 08:50 PM |
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posted by wolfgang54
hell would freeze over first, we need people to run the country properly not our cars
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| posted on August 27th, 2013 at 09:38 PM |
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as I posted before the only reason they had to worry about with the police is if the cars weren't mod plated and the cars not road worthy and as
stated above we need a leader for the country
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| posted on August 28th, 2013 at 07:08 AM |
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So ditching every single car that's not stock & has no mod plates gets pulled off the road.... Goodbye narrowed beams, welded irs conversions,
any brakes that weren't oem parts, frp panels, anything bumperless, different steering wheels, bigger engine capacities beyond the respective
multiplier, different size wheels.... The list goes on
To me... That list puts probably 60-70% of the older vws I'm aware off off the road.
That & both major parties are shit. Personal opinion only.
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| posted on August 28th, 2013 at 10:50 AM |
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they have good points. very much like a lot of non car enthusiast people complain about as well.
My taxi driver I used in Sydney on Monday was saying to me how hard it is now as very small unintentional stuff happens and you get heavy fines and he
and other drivers have to stress themselves excessively to be on the ball.
Seems to me more concentration on speedo that on actual driving.
The driver said law traffic enforcement and policing has become bureaucratically rather that common sense as it was in the past. I agree
The whole conversation started when we spotted a cop pinging people and he sent out a warning to other taxi driver to be careful in that area.
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| posted on August 28th, 2013 at 11:19 AM |
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There running in the senate, so voting for them will have no affect on who runs the country for the time being as the senate will be hostile to the
Libs.
If the NSW senate ballet paper wasn't 1 metre long I would vote for them but preference my chosen party 2nd but that would require filling in all the
spaces below the line
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| posted on August 28th, 2013 at 12:09 PM |
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When it comes down to it, your car is either legal or it's not. Even if it's a "stake out" sort of situation, if you get fined for something
illegal, take it like a man.
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| posted on August 28th, 2013 at 12:14 PM |
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posted by Isola
When it comes down to it, your car is either legal or it's not. Even if it's a "stake out" sort of situation, if you get fined for something
illegal, take it like a man.
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I agree but its testimonials like this that are upsetting (new commodore guy):
"I immediately spoke to officers in charge at both locations, but was met with arrogance and an inability to be reasoned with. At one point, an
officer compared defecting car enthusiasts to, I quote “if you want lollies, go to a candy store”. I have heard of dozens of stories of
unreasonable force by officers. One example was where a representative from the Motorama Holden car dealership brought along a brand new vehicle from
the lot to display it, and was held up for 30 minutes while officers went over it with a fine tooth comb in an effort to find something wrong with it.
When he protested, he was told that they would keep going until they found something. I have the gentleman’s contact details if you would like to
verify this disgraceful occurrence yourself."
This is an exerpt from a letter to Cambell Newman (QLD Premier) after a recent downshift meet. Sure its one-sided, but if you read it you can see why
a few feathers were 'ruffled'. Simply it was an event of discrimination:
"You claim that you want to address the problem of hooning. So do I. Targeting well-behaved enthusiasts at a legal, sanctioned, registered
family-friendly motoring event is not the way to do that. At this point, I’m disappointed and promoting an alternative political party who is able
to respect people doing the right thing."
http://www.downshiftaus.com/2013/an-open-letter-to-the-premier/
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| posted on August 28th, 2013 at 12:28 PM |
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You get one vote - don't waste it on someone without any power.
Writing letters, and lobbying the person who CAN help change things may help.....unfortunately it probably won't. The older I get, the more cynical I
become.
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| posted on August 28th, 2013 at 12:29 PM |
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^ yeah I seen that exact situation happen few times before. Brand new car gets targeted and defected unlawfully.
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| posted on August 28th, 2013 at 12:32 PM |
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Yeah, so they wasted their time to not be able to fine someone. If they want to waste time and have me leave with a smug grin on my face and a note to
my employer explaining why I was late then let them. It's easier to stand their for 5 mins with your mouth shut and then go, instead of bitching and
moaning about it and being there for an hour because they know it's giving you the shits.
I was in my GFs 4 month old Nissan Micra one night, and I got pulled over and they went over the car top to bottom and even did a DB check on the
exhaust. The car was completely stock except for custom plates. I just stood there and let them satisfy themselves. 8 mins later they were done and
had rather awkward sheepish looks on their face while I stood there watching and smirking. I then drove off having said all of about 6 words to them
and not having a drama.
Even when I would get pulled over "randomly" in my Skyline I NEVER had police issues because I was never carrying on like a bell end, and wasn't
driving like a full sick Tokyo Drifter before hand.
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| posted on August 28th, 2013 at 04:12 PM |
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Hi
I agree if your car is legal you don’t have a problem.
Most cops have no idea what they are looking at and if they defect you for a bogus defect you’re the one that has to spend time to get it cleared
etc.
I was with my son when they tried to book him for not having the H pattern on his gear knob, as it turns out I had just asked my RTA engineer about
this issues, he said it was a load rubbish, when I pointed this out to the cop he backed off.
The car lobby needs to get its act together, can you imagine the money that has been poured into all those car that were at that meeting Qld, what
would happen to many small business if those people didn’t pour lots of money into their cars?
Steve
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| posted on August 28th, 2013 at 04:14 PM |
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I do the same. I just go "how ya going mate!" pretty much say nothing after that
never had any problems and there is a fair few things they technically could pick at if they wanted on my car.
On the other hand, yesterday A girl I know got here plates removed from new corola for not being registered when it was in fact registered. the rego
was paid several weeks before, receipt printed and sticker in date on the window. The cops had in there system that it was not in rego.
plates taken, $700 fine and car left on the side of the road coz she can't drive it. And she had proof it was paid and rego was in check.
I don't get it? how does this even happen?
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| posted on August 28th, 2013 at 05:34 PM |
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Sounds like Power Trip cops, Vlad. When that happens you get their badge number and call their station and speak to their boss. If you have the
information that proves you're right and they don't back off, it's just small willy syndrome. They don't want to be wrong so they turn it into a
massive drama for you to try and fight it. When you speak to the officer in charge you generally don't wind up talking to a hot-head and can get it
cleared up.
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| posted on August 28th, 2013 at 06:18 PM |
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Ok....
LETS90 commodore - Rims out past guards. Not the ideal poster car for your cause.
Chrome car... There must be a law against this just on grounds of taste.....
To quote the guys in the video "It's about time we got the target removed off our foreheads" which is followed by the other guy "i'm crossing my
fingers that nobody gets done" and then giving getaway instructions......
I'd be worried if these guys were on a local council, let alone the senate.
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| posted on August 28th, 2013 at 06:43 PM |
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Some of my fears are the same as those SuperOwen.
There is a post going around on facebook for this "responsible" group, about sending photos in of the fines they got this past weekend in brisbane.
The picture of choice to attach to this request is someone giving the finger to the camera over the top of their fine for window tint being too dark
(some people from this group have been crying about no testing equipment being used to test tint shades). 1. A raised middle finger is obviously the
best choice when you want to stay diplomatic. And 2. If your tint is too dark, it's too dark. You can usually tell that from the other end of the
block without testing equipment. Go cry to your Mum instead.
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| posted on August 28th, 2013 at 06:53 PM |
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As you get older the cops do not even glance in my direction, i have four modified cars and they all have been engineered, the unfortunate fact is
they can put your car off the road and you are the person who has to waste your time getting it back there, the blue plates mean nothing to them, if
they do not like your head thats it, i always like the guys who fit there cars with a narrowed beam and have the car the dragging its arse on the
road, all for the look, the reduction in braking and handling has never been concidered when the beam was narrowed 4 inches, eventuually these types
of illegal modifications will impact on people who do the right thing and build there cars using a engineer, if everyone did the right thing there
would not be a issue.
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| posted on August 28th, 2013 at 07:47 PM |
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Who cares! I work hard to enjoy the cars I have, at the end of the day these guys aren't going to assist with the issues that really concern me and
how much the government takes from my hard earned money. I will vote for someone who can benefit me to enjoy my cars not just solely benefit what I do
with it!
I have my how to vote form right in front of me and my voting slip has these guys right next to the "smokers rights" party, what a joke!
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| posted on August 28th, 2013 at 09:27 PM |
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hey ive been stopped for thirty mins before work they stopped me for a random breath test where they persisted to go over the car during the xmas
holidays in batemans bay many years ago the recond they had grounds to search the car as they thought I had drugs in the car the car was fully
engineered and I was not worried yet I took his number and reported it to his captain where he was told to move on to the big smoke (ACT) I was even
apoligised went along with their to I just went along with their stupidity on the day but I had the last laugh
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| posted on August 29th, 2013 at 12:39 AM |
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As you get older the cops do not even glance in my direction, i have four modified cars and they all have been engineered, the unfortunate fact is
they can put your car off the road and you are the person who has to waste your time getting it back there, the blue plates mean nothing to them, if
they do not like your head thats it, i always like the guys who fit there cars with a narrowed beam and have the car the dragging its arse on the
road, all for the look, the reduction in braking and handling has never been concidered when the beam was narrowed 4 inches, eventuually these types
of illegal modifications will impact on people who do the right thing and build there cars using a engineer, if everyone did the right thing there
would not be a issue.
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I don't thing the age has much to do with it, I think they target people based on their history which they can pull up via the number plate at any
time.
The funny thing is my brother and I are both young, my brother still on his Ps and we both drive one of the worst possible cars for being targeted by
cops and we live in the one of the most cop overrun places in country vic, in fact COP hq for all of Macedon ranges. we never get hassled by the cops.
I reckon its because of our clean record.
yet I know people that get targeted on purpose because they were done few times before regardless of age.
My boss and his wife get fines regularly and over trivial speed infringement like 5-10 k over unintentionally, and they are good drivers and family
type people. Once you have a record, you are stuffed, if you don't its easy to keep clean. Thats my experience anyway.
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found this today. surprise surprise!
http://pcmhacking.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=3186
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I have my how to vote form right in front of me and my
voting slip has these guys right next to the "smokers rights" party, what a joke!
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to be fair the senate candidates have no choice of their location on the ballot paper, its decided by a draw.
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That comment was nothing about location on the ballot paper, it's about the "quality" of the parties running. Just filled out my ballot paper and
boy it was a hard decision, the "pirate party" did sound pretty tempting!
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