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 cemspec
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| posted on September 4th, 2013 at 10:34 PM |
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The VW Beetle - Changes Through the Years
I am new to VW beetles and am currently in the process of purchasing my 1st superbug.
I have been trying to do my research to learn what I can about these awesome little cars and came across a great website that helped me understand VIN
and Engine no.s by year and a good description of each model. Thought I would share it with you guys!
Someone might find it helpful and interesting like i did! 1940 - 1985 scroll through the pages!
http://www.vw-resource.com/years.html#1971-1980
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| posted on September 4th, 2013 at 10:41 PM |
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Australian built models are different.
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cemspec
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| posted on September 4th, 2013 at 10:51 PM |
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Ok, it was correct for my engine no. in the year model of my superbug and the VIN no. was also correct!
A aussie guy did it I thought!
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| posted on September 5th, 2013 at 10:31 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by cemspec
I am new to VW beetles and am currently in the process of purchasing my 1st superbug.
I have been trying to do my research to learn what I can about these awesome little cars and came across a great website that helped me understand VIN
and Engine no.s by year and a good description of each model. Thought I would share it with you guys!
Someone might find it helpful and interesting like i did! 1940 - 1985 scroll through the pages!
http://www.vw-resource.com/years.html#1971-1980
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Hi
Yes Rob & Dave;s website was done by Rob from Adelaide and Dave from the USA , so some info would be accurate and some not. Its IS a very good
website though.. I have a read now & then and have printed some pages out.
Why especially do you want a Superbug?
Lee
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| posted on September 5th, 2013 at 10:55 AM |
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Hi Lee
I actually just bought a beetle 74 model sight unseen and it is currently being shipped to me. I went on 'New Members Forum' to introduce myself
and put a picture of the bug I was buying and thats where I was told that I had bought a Superbug, I didnt realise, at least I know for sure now! 
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| posted on September 5th, 2013 at 11:59 AM |
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Why especially do you want a Superbug?
Lee
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why wouldnt you?
modern suspension and other features.
im sorry but beams belong on tractors and early vw, that the reason just about every modern car has strut suspension.
each to their own, i say but never belittle someone elses choice because it doesnt follow your opinion
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| posted on September 5th, 2013 at 12:18 PM |
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Hi
Welcome along cemspec, there are a few Luddites on here
Some of the facts in that VW resource website are wrong for Australian bugs.
Like "Wheels change from 5.6x15 to 6.0x15 in late 72.", I think he means tyres changed
"New double vacuum distributor with vacuum retard (5 degrees ATDC) at idle.
EGR (exhaust gas recirculation) added. New muffler. " & "Activated charcoal filter to catch fuel fumes." all these were US market things
As far as VW was concerned, there were 1200 & 1300 Beetles, these could have anything from a 1200 - 1600 motor and 1302 & 1303 Beetles, 1302
is a flat screen Volkswagen S in Australia and 1303 is a curved screen Volkswagen L in Australia.
So Lee you have a 1300 Beetle, the model before the 1302
Forum member Joel did a great write up various models but I cant find his post at the moment
Steve
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| posted on September 5th, 2013 at 01:08 PM |
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Thanks Steve for the info i have actually read Joels write up it was very good!
Everyone is very passionate about their cars and that they have the best model around! Each to their own, if we didnt have different tastes we would
all have the same car!
My main reason for wanting a 73 or later model was I have kids and felt uncomfortable sitting that close to the flat windscreen and wanted abit of a
gap not because its better! That is it! not for a superbug etc that seems to be a bonus now with more modcons but for mothers logic thinking, very
different to most of the boys out there!!
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| posted on September 5th, 2013 at 01:08 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by barls
| Quote: | Originally
posted by 68AutoBug
Why especially do you want a Superbug?
Lee
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why wouldnt you?
modern suspension and other features.
im sorry but beams belong on tractors and early vw, that the reason just about every modern car has strut suspension.
each to their own, i say but never belittle someone elses choice because it doesnt follow your opinion
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Bugger the better suspension, brakes, aeroynamics and bigger engine, I'm just happy to have a boot space that is big enough it can hold more than
just an empty chip packet 
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| posted on September 5th, 2013 at 01:19 PM |
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posted by 1303Steve
Some of the facts in that VW resource website are wrong for Australian bugs.
"New double vacuum distributor with vacuum retard (5 degrees ATDC) at idle. & "Activated charcoal filter to catch fuel fumes." all these were
US market things
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Australian Beetles had that.
I read it on samba, so it must be correct.
Sometimes Volkswagen dealers sell spare parts. Amazing isn't it!
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| posted on September 5th, 2013 at 01:27 PM |
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THey had DVDA dizzys for all of 5 mins in 71 till VW recalled them and fitted single vacuum.
You will find charcoal canisters but only on the last 75 and 76 Beetles
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Yes Joel a girl has to put the shopping somewhere!!
Cant wait to see my orange bug now learnt so much more about it thanks guys!
I would love to put a sunroof and carrera whale tail on it (if I could find one) but I am sure that is a whole new topic the pros and cons of them!!
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| posted on September 5th, 2013 at 06:24 PM |
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After owning a 1970 1300 standard and now a 1971 1302 S, I must say that the drivetrain is great as a daily driver in the 1302 S.
The 1300 Standard was much more work to maintain and more work to drive in stop start traffic, having only drum brakes and a 1300 engine.
The 1302 S with the changes in suspension, the disc brakes and the 1600 engine was so different, and yes the shopping did now fit in the luggage
compartment.
Personally I like the 1302 S, as I still am able to feel the steel dash/ flat screen love of an older design inspired body, but have a more modern
drivetrain (for a Beetle in the early 70's)
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| posted on September 9th, 2013 at 08:30 AM |
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If you want a fairly comprehensive article on the annual changes to Australian Beetles, and what Euro changes were NOT included, we have documented
them here:
http://www.clubvw.org.au/austvw001
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| posted on September 9th, 2013 at 11:42 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Joel
| Quote: | Originally
posted by barls
| Quote: | Originally
posted by 68AutoBug
Why especially do you want a Superbug?
Lee
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why wouldnt you?
modern suspension and other features.
im sorry but beams belong on tractors and early vw, that the reason just about every modern car has strut suspension.
each to their own, i say but never belittle someone elses choice because it doesnt follow your opinion
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Bugger the better suspension, brakes, aeroynamics and bigger engine, I'm just happy to have a boot space that is big enough it can hold more than
just an empty chip packet
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Hi Joel
I just asked why He wanted a Superbug??
I Never mentioned any of What You are saying... or belittled some ones choice of Beetle... I did own a SUPERBUG back in the 70s..
and I do remember the large front boot..
There are VW owners who like Supers and VW owners who like NON Supers... Some like beetles with king pins .. Some like beetles with narrowed front
ends, and some who don't like VW engines...
LEE
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If you want a fairly comprehensive article on the annual changes to Australian Beetles, and what Euro changes were NOT included, we have documented
them here:
http://www.clubvw.org.au/austvw001 [/quote
Thanks for that Info Phil..
LEE
All the later VW Books written by UK or USA Authors [I have seen] are now making the VW year with German made cars as from Jan to Dec making it
difficult for new comers to the VW ownership
"HOBBY" confusing to say the least.. lol
LEE
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| posted on September 9th, 2013 at 12:24 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by cemspec
Yes Joel a girl has to put the shopping somewhere!!
Cant wait to see my orange bug now learnt so much more about it thanks guys!
I would love to put a sunroof and carrera whale tail on it (if I could find one) but I am sure that is a whole new topic the pros and cons of them!!
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Keep looking about, as Carrera whale tales are about..
I saw one last year locally, but it was sold along with the car...
They were popular in the 70s..
Sun roof - smaller non genuine VW ones are available new...
which were also popular in the 70s in lots of cars..
The genuine VW type which You can put Your whole body thru =
I did hear of someone finding a complete new kit a few years ago... and I did see recently where a similar sun roof is being made in Brasil ,, I
think I saw that on Here... along with prices and freight
You can also get pop out side windows... new & used...
cheers
LEE
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Hi Joel
I just asked why He wanted a Superbug??
I Never mentioned any of What You are saying... or belittled some ones choice of Beetle... I did own a SUPERBUG back in the 70s..
and I do remember the large front boot..
There are VW owners who like Supers and VW owners who like NON Supers... Some like beetles with king pins .. Some like beetles with narrowed front
ends, and some who don't like VW engines...
LEE
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Don't fret Lee, it was all said tongue in cheek.
A bug is a bug regardless of how big the tail lights or windscreen are and what running gear is underneath.
I'll take a Bug from any era, I just like the late Supers because the suspension is a lot more modern and refined and can be upgraded more than the
original 1930s torsion bar/swing axle configuration.
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