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 RacingR
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| posted on December 25th, 2015 at 04:02 AM |
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Gearbox/Transaxle Options?
Hey Guys, new here, but a mate and I are helping someone do a conversion into a 60's Kombi Camper.
We have a few ideas on what engines we'd like to consider (subi is one, but a couple other not as common ones) .. what I'm trying to get my head
around is what can be used as a transaxle (and what needs to be done to use them? - Adaptor plates getting made if needed isnt too much of an
issue)
Conventional Transaxle setup would need to hold 300hp/280ft max on the safe side
Subaru 5/6 Spd - With Subarugears ring gear & pinion
Porsche G50 - (Hurts the wallet)
Porsche G96? (Boxer t/a? .. can they be inverted?)
Audi 01E? - anything needed?
Rebuilt VW Box
Also any auto's that are/can be commonly used?
Another couple of idea's have been utilising a transverse mounted V6 or similar, using a FWD box? .. is it as simple as making sure the engine is
oriented the right way for forward drive? ... havent seem to have seen this much in the research ive done .. any reason?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated
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RacingR
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| posted on December 27th, 2015 at 01:51 PM |
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nothing?
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| posted on December 27th, 2015 at 01:54 PM |
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give it time you posted it one christmas day. you were never going to get a big response then.
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RacingR
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| posted on December 30th, 2015 at 03:21 PM |
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And still nothing?
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| posted on December 30th, 2015 at 05:43 PM |
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Maybe you should talk directly to:
"dangerous" - Dave Butler
"subarugears" - Todd I think
and possibly John Sherman - Volks Conversions
1961 K Ghia - Porsche 5 sp, EJ20T, Brembo's, Dble A arm susp
1974 L Bug - Porsche 944 brakes, Boxster 16's
1974 Bay Camper - EJ20, twin radiators, Boxster 16x7's
Half Beetle trailer with Boxster 16x7's
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| posted on December 30th, 2015 at 05:45 PM |
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For what my comments are worth - I dont have a conversion
I have seen a few G50's but in a beetle involves cutting torsion bar tubes 
Have heard the subi box is a good thing but have not seen one
A well built Quaife VW box in a 400 rear wheel HP Type 3 Subi conversion works well from the one I have seen
Futue te ipsum!!!
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RacingR
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| posted on December 30th, 2015 at 09:50 PM |
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Karmann, thank you, I have been talking directly with Subarugears, their option is one for sure, ... all depends on room with the engine conversion we
wish to do 
Bizzare, yep, G50's are an option, but not sure if an option that is within the budget of this conversion for the client, ... although the (cant
remember) G97 or G96? maybe a bit more affordable option, but dont know too much about it.
Have sent an email today and got a reply to Rob Penrose? who did advise (depending on year model, ... client is still getting us details on the exact
yearmodel) that he can help with a manual box, or offer advice otherwise, which was greatly appreciated such a reply at this time of year.
Really interested in any Auto boxes tho that can/have been successfully used if there is such a thing?
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karmann141
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| posted on December 30th, 2015 at 10:49 PM |
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Aaron Roberts is your man if you're after an auto option.
1961 K Ghia - Porsche 5 sp, EJ20T, Brembo's, Dble A arm susp
1974 L Bug - Porsche 944 brakes, Boxster 16's
1974 Bay Camper - EJ20, twin radiators, Boxster 16x7's
Half Beetle trailer with Boxster 16x7's
2011 Tiguan TDI 4Motion
2010 LR Discovery 4 TDV
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RacingR
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| posted on December 30th, 2015 at 10:56 PM |
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He a member on here? ... or runs a business? .... first foray into the VW world
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karmann141
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| posted on December 30th, 2015 at 11:45 PM |
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Aaron Roberts - "20bkombi" on here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Li_gVVfV9U
http://forums.aussieveedubbers.com/viewtopic.php?tid=97112&page=1
1961 K Ghia - Porsche 5 sp, EJ20T, Brembo's, Dble A arm susp
1974 L Bug - Porsche 944 brakes, Boxster 16's
1974 Bay Camper - EJ20, twin radiators, Boxster 16x7's
Half Beetle trailer with Boxster 16x7's
2011 Tiguan TDI 4Motion
2010 LR Discovery 4 TDV
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RacingR
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| posted on December 31st, 2015 at 12:55 AM |
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Thank you kind Sir
I've owned my fair share of crazy rotors in my life, .... I'll send Aaron a PM, thank you.
Please anyone still have manual ideas/options used before, please keep them coming.
it's all up to my client as to the eventual setup
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| posted on December 31st, 2015 at 01:23 PM |
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What you need is a type 3 swingaxle transmission from pre 65, it has the bigger brakes and wide 5 stud pattern, get the adapter plates off Bernie at
Munster garage in perth , 0438892472 that way all you have to do is cut the shock mounts off the axle tubes use the nose cone and hockey stick off the
busses transmission and it just bolts in, very easy, lowers it about 75mm
That's for manual, don't know about auto
No chopping or welding to bus, so if you want to go back to factory it's easy.
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| posted on December 31st, 2015 at 04:08 PM |
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That looks interesting, thanks Splitbus.
Going back to original I dont think is too much of a concern for our client as the Kombi is going to be used as a promo / mobile work vehicle for
him.
Bigger brakes / suspension isnt a big concern as thats one of the major things I retail, so will all be a custom setup, probably with some Sumitomo 4
pistons. Looking forward to getting this Kombi here to start planning ideas
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| posted on January 3rd, 2016 at 01:08 AM |
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Mistake in my first post, with regards to nomenclature of the Porsche transaxle, but looking into also now the Porsche G86/00 and G86/01 as a manual
option in an inverted setup.
Any one on here know much about them? .... apparently they are effectively a 911 G96 transaxle which has been inverted for the mid-mount boxer setup?
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| posted on January 3rd, 2016 at 05:33 AM |
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I put a Subaru motor and subarugears box in my wife's Kombi last year, 10,000km on it now and no problems. We love it. Welcome to come inspect/drive
if you want.
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| posted on January 3rd, 2016 at 06:15 AM |
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Jetta engine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr5Z1ymbajY
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| posted on January 3rd, 2016 at 07:29 AM |
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Wow what a build - so much more than a Jetta engine. Imagine just finding a original rust free bus.
1961 K Ghia - Porsche 5 sp, EJ20T, Brembo's, Dble A arm susp
1974 L Bug - Porsche 944 brakes, Boxster 16's
1974 Bay Camper - EJ20, twin radiators, Boxster 16x7's
Half Beetle trailer with Boxster 16x7's
2011 Tiguan TDI 4Motion
2010 LR Discovery 4 TDV
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| posted on January 3rd, 2016 at 09:06 PM |
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Ideally we want something thats a bit more of a "common" motor. So if something breaks down, and he's not local to us, in theory going to be easier
for someone else to get him back on the road if necessary.
Engine ideas have come down to (in terms of common motors)
1UZFE
L67
EJ2XXX
I also like the idea of the ABZ Audi 4.2L, and APB 2.7 Bi Turbo Motors, but not fitting with the common motor theme
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| posted on January 5th, 2016 at 07:32 PM |
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there is a chev or general motors transaxle from some front wheel drive cadillacs that has been used in a VW...chev engine pattern...some info on this
forum somewhere
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| posted on January 6th, 2016 at 12:26 PM |
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Had a search but couldnt find much apart from the Corvair setup.
Subaru / G86 / VW Built box all seems to be a lot more well known, just in the instance of an "oh shit" moment and something breaks.
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| posted on January 6th, 2016 at 04:37 PM |
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Actually I didnt even think of it, its the Caddy Northstar motor I think you are referring too. Plentiful in the US, not much known about them here
though
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| posted on January 7th, 2016 at 12:08 AM |
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Porsche G50s are big boxes and about $5k start.
Later Porsche Boxes are HUGE.
Seen plenty inverted in ultimas and GT 40 Replicas but it's a whole new can of worms. Tapping the case for oil squirters, adding oil pumps to the box
etc etc. They CAN be run inverted but were not designed to.
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| posted on January 7th, 2016 at 12:40 AM |
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Birdman are you talking about the G86/87's?
The Camper should be here with us within a week and then the real discussions start
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| posted on January 29th, 2016 at 05:03 PM |
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Weddle in LA sells many parts for vw gearboxes.
You can blow 4 to 5 k on parts only for a proper built VW type 1 box. They offer a few aftermarket boxes starting with Mendeola which begins at about
8k I think.
Ive run type 1 boxes (currently on my 3rd) in front of an ej20t for many years on the street with only vw parts and they hold up well. Id expect a
properly built type 1 with all aftermarket HD parts would take 300hp all day if your not drag racing it much.
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| posted on January 30th, 2016 at 09:38 AM |
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I'd go Subaru driveline,tried and tested,many different engine options,parts not a problem,reliability excellent
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| posted on February 14th, 2016 at 12:20 AM |
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Ok well the beast is here, but havent got close to being stuck into it yet, and probably wont for a couple more weeks (as I have broken the 01L in my
A8 that needs to be rebuilt first)
Have come up with some crazy and some not so crazy ideas in the last few days, .. tending towards the "not so common stuff" as our client has in a
way given us a Carte Blanche approach to it.
Are the old VW trans are there adaptors available to bolt up 5-10yr old VAG motors?
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| posted on February 14th, 2016 at 05:09 PM |
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IF your using a suby motor use the suby gearbox mines been great
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| posted on February 14th, 2016 at 06:04 PM |
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Subi motor isnt even in the equation anymore
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| posted on May 7th, 2016 at 11:26 PM |
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I know everything is budget based but why go the same old crap thats been done for the last 30 years, yeah its proven but so was the vdub motor it
replaced, albeit slower, go porsche awd, electric, mid mount v8 or something, f@#k subaru.
How far does the owner want to go?
http://www.speedhunters.com/2013/05/race-taxi-the-porsche-bi-turbo-bus/
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