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| posted on September 23rd, 2003 at 04:05 PM |
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Weight of 1971 Beetle
Does anyone know the weight of the 1970/1971 Beetle?
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Kuch
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| posted on September 24th, 2003 at 01:40 PM |
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They are usually registered at around 860kg, a bit heavier than earlier 6V Beetles that were about 740kg.
Pretty light by today's standards.
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| posted on September 24th, 2003 at 05:27 PM |
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Thats lighter than a lotus! Stupid light!
Imagine fitting up all carbon panels, like they sell in Germany? 
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| posted on September 24th, 2003 at 07:31 PM |
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My 1971 superbug without the tool kit & the spare, with half a tank of petrol, just the way it is on the track is 890kg without me in it. Quite
fat as far as VW's go.
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| posted on September 24th, 2003 at 08:15 PM |
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Jack, that's plenty lighter than most racing car.... Oh yeah yours is a racer :-)
But still yours is'nt gutted to bare minimum.
Far out, that's light. You learn something new everyday! I always knew beetles were light, but... man! I can't believe it.
Anyone got the weight of an early type-3 handy? If it's heavy enough, my fasty is definately going on the market!
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| posted on September 24th, 2003 at 08:22 PM |
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Okay... To put it into perspective!
Minimum dry weight of a formula ford is about 420/425kg
Minimum weight of a V8 supercar (not sure if it's dry or not) is 1350kg (plus 100KG downforce on the front and 300KG on the rear)
So think about what a gutted beetle with lightweight panels and components would weigh. Would have to be around the 600-650 mark, ja?:bounce
[Edited on 24-9-2003 by Cam]
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| posted on September 25th, 2003 at 12:18 AM |
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Nah it's not gutted Cam, thats full interior, factory soundproofing, plus a heaps of extra soundproofing in behind the velour headliner &
behind the back seat, stereo, speakers, roll cage etc, just what u have in most race cars (LOL)
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 posted on September 25th, 2003 at 04:03 AM |
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weight of a 1970 beetle : 1807 lbs
Kuchster
somewhere between 700-740kgs sounds right to Me...
thats for a standard beetle not a Super,
Supers are heavier I think...
Lee
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| posted on September 25th, 2003 at 07:57 AM |
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Nope your all wrong
Ive been collecting VW Glove box hand books lately and in the back of them these are the following readings according to GOD.
1302 August 1970 handbook so that would be the first Superbug here weighs 870 kgs
VW1500 August 1969 handbook which would cover models here in Aussie up to the Strut super bug weighs 820 kgs
They have some great info in these booklets
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| posted on September 25th, 2003 at 01:36 PM |
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See Jak, that's where the F1 teams are going wrong. Need to make their cars roadworthy 
With the cage and stuff in it, that must feel really nice on the road? Silent too. WEll aside from the unmistakeable sound of webbers 
Dave, have you got the weight of an early TypeIII fastback handy at all?
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| posted on September 25th, 2003 at 06:49 PM |
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I have a lot of the Type 3 manuals but i dont know if they break the weight down into each body style but will check....
What year do you have ??
Anyway i can tell you without looking that there BLOODY Heavy thakes 6 to lift a wagon shell and only 2 to lift a Bug shell.
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| posted on September 25th, 2003 at 06:58 PM |
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2 to lift a bug shell??????? I've lifted a bug shell with 3 other blokes & it was a struggle.................but I am a shortarse Dave.
Jak
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| posted on September 25th, 2003 at 07:12 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
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See Jak, that's where the F1 teams are going wrong. Need to make their cars roadworthy
With the cage and stuff in it, that must feel really nice on the road? Silent too. WEll aside from the unmistakeable sound of webbers
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Yeh thats right Cam, I took my friends L-bug road race car with a 2110cc for a drive the other weekend, it's fully stripped, no sound proofing,
no stereo, no carpet etc, just bare floor, lexan windows etc, ....man it was loud, but definantly quicker with the weight difference. I then took Paul
for a drive in my car & he thought that he was in a limosine! He coldn't beleive how quiet it was & that u could actually have a
conversation & listen to the stereo over the 45mm Dellortoes. He reckons it's as quick as he's but I think he was just being polite.
Jak
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| posted on September 25th, 2003 at 07:14 PM |
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Now Dave, lifting a bug shell with 2 people? you might be thinking of Boris's new drag car maybe
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| posted on September 26th, 2003 at 12:13 AM |
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Wanna know something scary? I've moved one on my own. GOt inside it
and lifted it wiht my shoulders/head and shuffled it out of my garage. LOL
That was a sixties beetle though, without doors, bumpers, bonnet and boot.
But my old man and I have swapped a 60's complete shell onto an IRS balljoint 'pan. Get's pretty wobbly with all the bits on.
I know, Jak. I used to drive around in a gutted beetle, solid mounts, the works. I swear my hearing is damaged from using it everyday. Crazy!
Next time I'm up in NSW we'll have to catch up and you can take me for spin in your beast.
BTW, how's the new motor going.?
I've been absent from these forums abit, so kinda missing alot of the local news
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| posted on September 26th, 2003 at 12:14 AM |
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Oh yeah, Dave. I have a '66 fasty.
Cheers!
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| posted on September 28th, 2003 at 01:09 AM |
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you have got to love VW, thay though of everything  cause if you
can't show the transport department that bookelt that states you're bug is over 800kg then you can't fit a WRX motor :bounce If anyone
is keen on a WRX oval I'm very handy in photoshop if you know what I
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| posted on September 28th, 2003 at 07:00 PM |
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On the rego papers of the 1971 1300 beetle i looked at yesterday, it said it was 790 kg
That means 10kg off for me to put the subaru engine in!
What model should i look at between 1969-1971 to be more then 800kg ?
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| posted on September 28th, 2003 at 08:06 PM |
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don't stress you just need some proof u2u Brad (Buggy Brad) he has
a nice old book that states some er um ambitious weights |
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| posted on September 28th, 2003 at 09:02 PM |
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sounds good
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| posted on September 29th, 2003 at 08:21 AM |
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Cam
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Oh yeah, Dave. I have a '66 fasty.
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Sorry mate i forgot to look at the manulas until now....
The handbook says a Fasty weighs in at 1025Kgs.
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On the rego papers of the 1971 1300 beetle i looked at yesterday, it said it was 790 kg
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I wouldnt believe anything the RTA says on the redgo papers... remember thes figures are typed in by Public Servants.
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| posted on September 29th, 2003 at 12:57 PM |
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Cheers Dave, you're a star!
But over the tonne?!?! :o
Well, that's that, the fasty is going back together and onto the market! I like 'em light
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| posted on September 29th, 2003 at 09:20 PM |
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Weights
1968 - 75 Ball Joint / Swing axle is 862 kg
1971 - 74 SuperBug is 870 kg
76 and on Mexican Beetle is 820kg
My manx is 1300 kg :P:P:P Dunno which V8 I shoudl use
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| posted on September 29th, 2003 at 09:23 PM |
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How on earth does your manx end up nearly twice the weight of an early beetle?
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| posted on September 29th, 2003 at 09:55 PM |
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Well
Thats what my Rego papers say ..
Long story but suits me fine
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| posted on September 29th, 2003 at 11:02 PM |
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ahh... okie dokie then. That explains it, happened to a mate of mine with his beetle.
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