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 baybuscamperkid
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| posted on October 9th, 2003 at 05:07 PM |
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hat are front door vent windows worth in a bay?
hat are front door vent windows worth in a bay window kombi? can they be fitted to a bus that has solid windows at the moment? are window rubbers more
expensive (i have to replace mine anyway)?
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| posted on October 9th, 2003 at 05:39 PM |
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Yes you can fit opening 1/4'ers where the fixed glass is currently.
Rubbers probably cheaper as they are more common in the US, the biggest market for the rubber.
As for price, if enough people are interested I will bring some more in (not many were last time).
Landed cost is ~$150-$200 for a good pair. Allow maybe $100 at a guess for all the rubbers (three pieces per window).
If your paitient and keep your eyes open you should be able to get them cheaper out of a local bus. Finding them rust free is the drama.
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| posted on October 9th, 2003 at 05:47 PM |
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i am talking to a guy who has a set for $25 US the pair, and as all my window rubbers need replacing i thought it may be a good opportunity. i need
front window rubbers, door rubbers and windscreen rubber. what are all these worth if i get them in Aus?
also, from this pic, is anything other then rubber needed for fitment?
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| posted on October 9th, 2003 at 05:52 PM |
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Has he got 2 pairs 
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| posted on October 9th, 2003 at 11:36 PM |
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Um,
Their far form complete dude. Will post a pic tomorrow. You need the frame (frame is different for opening windows to fixed) to go with it.
Don't forget exchange rate plus ~$US30 postage (USPS) at a guess.
Mick motors sells new lock mechanisms for ~$16ea, or find a good set off an old beetle somewhere (one in the pic is broken)
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| posted on October 10th, 2003 at 01:14 AM |
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Ryan, as has already been said, they can be fitted to replace fixed 1/4 windows, thats how mine got there. 
I thought the rubbers were US$25 per side, so if you can get a pair for the price of one, go for it! :thumb
There is a lot missing from the pair in the pic. There is a fixed channel between the 1/4 glass and the wind-up glass, as well as top and bottom
hinges, rubbers, and the lock mechanism. I don't think the lock is the same as a Beetle though - I know it's not the same as the type 3
version I'm using on one side. They fit and do the job, but they're not the same. Birchall would notice! 
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| posted on October 10th, 2003 at 06:38 AM |
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In response to Baybuscamperkid -
Windscreen - Braz $42 (shite)
WCM $77
Door Rubbers - Braz $40 each (shitex2)
WCM approx $120
Complete fixed 1/4 Window front door
- unknown origin nut bloody good $42
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| posted on October 10th, 2003 at 11:14 AM |
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This is what you need to do the swap.
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| posted on October 10th, 2003 at 11:15 AM |
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Cheers,
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| posted on October 10th, 2003 at 11:20 AM |
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Oh, Col,
I have probably 3-4 different style locks all sourced from '74 and later Bay Kombi's.
The aftermarket Brazil/Mex. ones Mick has look the closest to the original latches on my '77. The originals from the rear 1/4'ers are all
different!!
Not sure how good they are though.
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| posted on October 10th, 2003 at 02:33 PM |
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Andy's prices are about what I've heard in the past from various sources, but I settled on the pair in the picture because they were cheap
($120/pair) and solid.
I bought them initially only with function in mind, and for that they are cheap. To make them 'pretty', they need rechroming, glass
polishing to remove scratches, all new rubbers, and a new lock mechanism (one was missing the whole arm, the other was missing a knob). This is
eventually going to cost me well above the $300 that Andy quoted for a really good pair, so consider what you want them for before buying cheap.
There are bargains out there, but it might work out better to hand over the cash in the first place.
[Edited on 10-10-2003 by KruizinKombi]
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| posted on October 10th, 2003 at 02:50 PM |
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Andy, this is the lock I borrowed from my '72 type 3. It certainly doesn't look out of place, but as you can see in this pic the lock arm
can actually swing up without hindrance, even with the lock knob on the anti-clockwise position. It's not at all noticable, but it makes the
vehicle a bit easier to break into, so I think I'll contact Mick and lash out with $16. :thumb
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| posted on October 10th, 2003 at 03:18 PM |
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Col,
Mine are like that also. When I broke one of mine, I took one from a rear 1/4 and it too could be lifted like you say. I don't know if the new
ones will solve the problem.
I'm guessing they are beetle ones anyway.
Haven't been able to source the rivets either.
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| posted on October 10th, 2003 at 04:50 PM |
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Hey Andy,
They are pretty sexy lookin' windows
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| posted on October 10th, 2003 at 08:45 PM |
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thanks for the quick response guys. i probably dont have the money to do the full job at the moment anyway, so thanks for the input. the windows are
on thesamba if anyone is interested, there is a tinted pair as well. i am pulling out, so anyone who is interested. i had a feeling there was some
missing off them but i didnt realise how much.
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| posted on October 10th, 2003 at 09:25 PM |
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vent windows
I brought mine from the states and reconditioned them
the costs were;
Buying and shipping $115
Buying brand new seals $60 gen vw
paint $5
total $180 restored
Advise when you find a pair make sure the chrome on the window channel is in good nik then drill the two rivits out on the frame thats holding the
hinge (this way you retain the original vw pivoit rivit) you have to do this to put the new seals on then sand blast and paint the frames and
reasemble install and enjoy. Dont just install them make sure that you repaint the frames as you'll be in the same boat as before once they have
rotted away.
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| posted on October 13th, 2003 at 05:27 PM |
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A word of warning on 'genunine' VW, it often means Brazilian these days, so WCM may still be better!
Old stock from Germany may still be out there if your lucky!
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| posted on October 14th, 2003 at 07:52 AM |
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That there is a sweet pair of windows Andy has. I have had a few sets over the years from local stuff and none of them have looked that clean around
the hinges. It is worth paying for good ones as the $$$ add up real quick fixing them up. I would love a set or even a drivers only but have the $$$
pointed elsewhere at the mo. Toys.... too many toys
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| posted on October 14th, 2003 at 06:32 PM |
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Oh, on that point, some help for anyone out there trying to repair rusty frames, you can cut sections out of good beetle ones to replace rusty
sections in the bus ones. The profiles are the same!!!
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| posted on October 14th, 2003 at 06:58 PM |
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who has some frames? I have a NOS window that I got for my birthday, just need a frame.
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