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 Astro Boy
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| posted on January 2nd, 2004 at 09:49 PM |
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water restrictions.
in the blue mountains there are water restriction. im not sure about the rest of oz.
I dont quite understand why we cant use a hose. i washed the bus today with a bucket and im sure that it used at least 5 times as much water. are they
just trying to persuade people not to wash thier car by making it difficult or do they sincerely think that a bucket saves water.
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| posted on January 2nd, 2004 at 10:00 PM |
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i've often questioned why hoses are the first target when water becomes a little scarse......
in the u.k they have hose pipe bans quite often, which i always found amusing considering how much it rains over there, still i never used to wash my
cars anyway....
surely a carwash uses more than a bucket or a hose, or even both put together, but theres never any restrictions on them.
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| posted on January 2nd, 2004 at 10:16 PM |
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The water restrictions are a very important part of water management. A hose will use alot more water than a bucket. Think how long it takes to fill a
bucket with a hose, and how long the hose would be on , while washing the car. The hose bans are used for every body. its easier to ban hoses then try
to control how much a hose could be used.
With australia's current water use patterns, water is a very under valued resource. If the true value of water was passed onto the consumer u
wouldn't be using a hose etc. But until this happens and governments work out that australia is running out of water , nothing will change.
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| posted on January 2nd, 2004 at 10:24 PM |
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Kai, I think you'll find that commercial carwash companies recycle the water.
Of course we would all be better off waterwise if we got rid of Cotton and Rice farms, thats two products that this country is NOT set up for.
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| posted on January 2nd, 2004 at 10:24 PM |
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what bix says is true. You learn the value of water when you cant use it like you normally would.
having been to a large 4 day party out in the desert (lyndhurst) during the drought, having showers is out of the question and you learn just how far
a bucket of water can go.
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Kai.A.
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| posted on January 2nd, 2004 at 10:44 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally
posted by Softop
Kai, I think you'll find that commercial carwash companies recycle the water.
Of course we would all be better off waterwise if we got rid of Cotton and Rice farms, thats two products that this country is NOT set up for.
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ok, i'm all for it if they use recycled water....
as for the cotton and rice, i don't really know enough on the subject to comment (hiding behind my own ignorance  )
kai
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| posted on January 2nd, 2004 at 10:55 PM |
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Using a hose to wash cars is banned in Vic.; bucketing does use more water than a trigger hose, but it does discourage people from washing their cars
at home thus saving water as the commercial carwashes are very efficient overall.
That said, the water restrictions in Melbourne are largely political correctness to ensure that city-dwellers are seen to be sharing the discomfort of
our country cousins; a litre of water saved in Melbourne does absolutely nothing for the water situation in country Vic.; the saved litre is not
magically transported to the country reservoir.
The whole concept of "saving" water is, of course, a product of some fairly woolly thinking as if we were dealing with some finite resource
in a non-renewable manner rarther than dealing with one of the most bountiful resources in a cycle of replenishment. Unfortunately this sort of
pseudo-science, coupled with populist and pointless advertising of the "don't be a water-Wally" type, diverts attention from real
water-management issues such as:
- appropriate sustainable use of irrigation sources (see Softop's comments before)
- the reserving of environmental flows in key waterways to avoid salination
- appropriately sized, intelligently-located catchments in irrigation areas optimised for a ten-year weather pattern, not a two-year optimistic
guess
- and the generality of living in a drought-prone country, but looking surprised each time the rain doesn't come.
There, I'm glad I've got that off my spleen! Were we talking about cars???
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| posted on January 2nd, 2004 at 11:02 PM |
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I used to use a trigger nozzle to wash my car.
I used to wash my car by working a panel at a time from the top down. This used:
* initial rinse 30 s - 1 min depending on how filthy
* half filled bucket 45 s
* hose off 30 seconds to a minute
Sometimes I might have required required two buckets to wash the car if it was really dirty. Let's say worst case scenario, I used the hose for 3
and half minutes (63 litres*) of water through my triggle nozzle (it takes less time using the tap, but that's not how I do it as the tap is away
from the car a little and I'm lazy).
Using the same hose, I can fill my wash bucket in about a minute and a half. I need between five and seven buckets to wash my car
* two or three to wet the car before I lay a sponge on it
* 1/2 to 1 whole bucket to wash
* two or three to rinse the suds and crap off.
Worst case scenario is 10.5 minutes (~190 litres) of hose time to use buckets instead of the hose directly. No wonder it takes me longer to wash my
car now.
It takes me 1/3rd the water to use a hose, but I'm not allowed. Someone just doesn't like people washing cars or lawns.
Andrew
* using the time it takes to fill an 18 litre bucket
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| posted on January 2nd, 2004 at 11:09 PM |
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Just get a bit of cheese cloth and wet in a bucket of water use the wet cloth to wash the car and then squeese it out and use it as a shammie, I do
my Kombi like that, and I dont get any water in the bottoms of the doors and other places, so less chance of rust.
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| posted on January 2nd, 2004 at 11:37 PM |
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thats a great idea robo!
might wash mine like that tommorow and see how it goes! |
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| posted on January 3rd, 2004 at 07:27 AM |
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i seen the car cruising my area who give out the fines,,,,i bought a small 1000 litre tank,have run my washing machine water to it,a pool pump back
into a garden hose,this way i can keep the cars clean and the grass green,,,,the average washing machine uses 100 to 150 litres of water a load,= a
lot of water wasted..
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| posted on January 3rd, 2004 at 08:25 AM |
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dont get me wrong, im all for saving water. but i believe that water management at the top end of the scale ie commercial and agricultural needs to be
improved. i am happy to do my bit i was just making the point that a bucket uses more (as vanderaj pointed out) and i wonder if the water board/
government have actually done research as to how much each method uses. oh well we are all doing our bit by driving air-cooled but its is just a drop
in the bucket really. he he he
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| posted on January 3rd, 2004 at 08:36 AM |
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No worrie's Astro
I think another thing that makes life easier for me, is I wax my Kombi about every 5 weeks, the dirt dosen't stick to the car as much, one pass
with a damp (wet) rag and it comes off quite easily, one more to dry it and I'm done.
I think another key is that I use cheese cloth, with a very open weave, it captures the grime better than a tightly weaved cloth.
And just squeese it out and it become's a shammie.
I can wash the Kombi with just one bucket of water!
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Astro Boy
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| posted on January 3rd, 2004 at 08:45 AM |
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i might wax it. the old bus seem to drink the grime then sweat it out of its pores.
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| posted on January 3rd, 2004 at 08:50 AM |
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Give it a cut back and then a polish and last but not least, a good coat of wax.
Bruce should know what to do!
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