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 Secoh
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| posted on March 1st, 2004 at 08:08 PM |
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6V starter...how do you identify if it is one?
I have a starter that came with a box of crap with my '68 baja.
I dont know what year it's from, but it looks ancient. its huge, and has screw on plates on the solenoid.
Someone wanted a 6V starter and I don't want to get his hopes up because I have NFI what this one is...
how do you tell without fitting it up and trying it?
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| posted on March 1st, 2004 at 09:00 PM |
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Hi
The voltage is written on them and the 6 volters have a larger spigot bearing size.
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 posted on March 1st, 2004 at 09:27 PM |
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6 volt versus 12 volt starter Motors...
The 6 volt starter has a different number of teeth to mesh with the 6 volt ring gear. 6v & 12v have different number of teeth on the ring
gear. I can count the teeth on a 12 volt starter motor tomorrow, but they normally have the voltage stamped on them... The mounting holes for 6v &
12v are the same , as far as I know, back to around 1961... not sure on ovals etc...
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| posted on March 2nd, 2004 at 07:46 AM |
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thanks guys. if you could count the teeth thatd be great. there is no Voltage numbering anywhere on it.
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| posted on March 4th, 2004 at 06:31 AM |
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well I took some pics of it, can anyone confirm what it is?
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| posted on March 4th, 2004 at 04:31 PM |
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That looks a hella lot like my 6v starter but im usually wrong so that would make it a 12v  |
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| posted on March 5th, 2004 at 09:10 AM |
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12 volts starter has 9 teeth....
Well, it IS definately, dirty & crappy looking... and OLD looking..
A 12 volt starter motor has 9 TEETH on the pinion....
I just counted them... not sure about a 6v
should be more or less - not the same though...
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| posted on March 5th, 2004 at 09:23 AM |
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and it doesn't say whether its 6v or 12 volt on the strater motor...
It wouldn't have taken much to stamp a couple of extra numbers....
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| posted on March 5th, 2004 at 09:37 AM |
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from Chilton's VW Manual..
36HP starter : Bosch EED 0.4/6L/4
40 HP starter : Bosch EEF 0.5/6L/1
40 HP type 2 : VW 113 911 021 B
these are 6 volt starter numbers.
this may be of some help..
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| posted on March 5th, 2004 at 11:54 AM |
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off the subject but on the same line
what was the first year the 12 volt came out?
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| posted on March 5th, 2004 at 02:16 PM |
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thanks lee. my one there has 9 teeth so i guess that makes it a 12V.
anyone want it? otherwise the OTTO is gonna eat it.
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 posted on March 5th, 2004 at 10:37 PM |
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12 volts arrived in Australia in 1968 ***
The first 12 Volt Beetles sold in Australia were the New Updated 1968 Model.... In the UK, they were still selling 6v 1200cc beetles in
1968...
Most 6 volt starter motors would have been thrown away many years ago...
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| posted on March 7th, 2004 at 02:37 PM |
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6v starters have the solenoid terminal posts at 45 deg angles. the 12v ones go straight up
Jon
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| posted on March 7th, 2004 at 05:26 PM |
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secoh. that looks like a 6v starter to me. i was told you could tell the difference, as a 6v has taht plate on the terminal side. and 12v dont. here
is a pic of two 6v. the top one is from pre 66.
then a 12v at the bottom.
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| posted on March 7th, 2004 at 05:28 PM |
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and i think a shaft on the 12v is thinner.
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